DD's wishes for Voldy and Harry (was Re: Will there be ....)

[lupinlore]

No: HPFGUIDX 147510

> kchuplis:
> 
> Personally, I rather wonder if DD doesn't want LV to die without  
> actually realizing what he and LV have argued about all these 
years - 
> that there are worse things than outright death - that there IS a  
> power beyond death - love. Which seems a little vindictive, since I 
> really do believe DD is all for ridding the world of this complete 
> evil, but I think that sentiment is there.  I also think there is 
the 
> other affirmation regarding death or redemption when (and it seems 
to 
> confirm death) when Harry asks (about the prophecy) "so does that 
mean 
> that...that one of us has got to kill the other... in the end?" and 
DD 
> answers simply "Yes." I know everyone likes to weave all kinds of 
> things around this as well but I mean, really, it doesn't get too 
much 
> clearer that that is what it comes down to.
>


I think we tend to forget something very important about Dumbledore.  
He wasn't always the 150-odd-year-old Headmaster of Hogwarts.  There 
was a time when he faced a Dark Wizard called Grindlewald.  And, we 
are told, he killed said dark wizard.  It may be that he managed to 
destroy Grindlewald without technically "killing" him, but if so we 
have no evidence for that.

Dumbledore's speech to Draco implies that he knows what killing is 
about.  I think this is further evidence that he literally killed 
Grindlewald.  And this lends power to his simple "yes" in answer to 
Harry's question.  I think this means that DD believes, rightly or 
wrongly, that Harry must literally kill Voldemort.

Perhaps this is the key to DD's feelings about Voldemort.  He 
evidently felt concern about Draco becoming a murderer.  How must he 
feel about Harry having to kill -- if not actually committing murder 
in the technical sense?  Is this the chief source of his antipathy to 
Voldemort?  Perhaps the thing he cannot forgive Voldemort for is that 
Voldemort is going to force Harry to kill?  

If this is so, then his speech to Voldy about wishing much worse for 
him has a double meaning.  He DOES wish much worse for Voldemort.  
But he wishes much better for Harry than Voldy's death would mean.

Lupinlore