[HPforGrownups] DD's wishes for Voldy and Harry (was Re: Will there be ....)

[Karen]

No: HPFGUIDX 147513


On Thursday, February 2, 2006, at 07:16 PM, lupinlore wrote:

> I think we tend to forget something very important about Dumbledore. 
> He wasn't always the 150-odd-year-old Headmaster of Hogwarts.  There
> was a time when he faced a Dark Wizard called Grindlewald.  And, we
> are told, he killed said dark wizard.  It may be that he managed to
> destroy Grindlewald without technically "killing" him, but if so we
> have no evidence for that.
>
> Dumbledore's speech to Draco implies that he knows what killing is
> about.  I think this is further evidence that he literally killed
> Grindlewald.  And this lends power to his simple "yes" in answer to
> Harry's question.  I think this means that DD believes, rightly or
> wrongly, that Harry must literally kill Voldemort.
>
> Perhaps this is the key to DD's feelings about Voldemort.  He
> evidently felt concern about Draco becoming a murderer.  How must he
> feel about Harry having to kill -- if not actually committing murder
> in the technical sense?  Is this the chief source of his antipathy to
> Voldemort?  Perhaps the thing he cannot forgive Voldemort for is that
> Voldemort is going to force Harry to kill? 
>
> If this is so, then his speech to Voldy about wishing much worse for
> him has a double meaning.  He DOES wish much worse for Voldemort. 
> But he wishes much better for Harry than Voldy's death would mean.
>

kchuplis:

I agree. I think DD feels absolutely a great deal of hate towards LV 
that it is this way. I think that that was what the whole "you were to 
young at 12, 13, 14, etc." was all about. He just wanted to put off 
that realization forever. To have Harry be a boy. To not burden him but 
also to put off the reality of Harry having the realization and worse, 
the act of destroying LV. Because there is a definite conundrum here in 
that killing kills the soul or damages it. It *will* change Harry.