James and Lily defying Voldemort

[Jen Reese]

No: HPFGUIDX 147751

> Amontillada: 
> I read "thrice" as indicating three particular occasions of 
> defiance, not only their ongoing efforts against him. On the other
> hand, it's hard for me to believe that Lily and James had confronted 
> him firsthand three times, and yet had not been killed. The general
> image I've gotten is that Voldemort was absolutely ruthless, and it 
> doesn't mesh with that that they had survived three confrontations--
> and so had the Longbottoms.

Jen R.: For some reason whenever I hear the words 'thrice defied' it 
makes me think of the two couples refusing Voldemort. Maybe refusing 
him something he wanted, or refusing to be a follower or some other 
circumstance. These wouldn't have occur in person but *could* have, I 
guess. If Voldemort wanted something from them he wouldn't necessarily 
strike first before achieving his goal. 

Similar to refused would be 'resisted'. One definition of defy in my 
dictionary is 'to resist attempts at'. I guess what Lupin is doing 
with the werewolves could be considered a resistance movement in 
Voldemort's eyes because he's attempting to grab followers. 

Amontillada: 
> Perhaps "thrice defied" referred to three particularly important
> occasions--for example, times when Lily and James snared one or some
> of Voldemort's most important supporters. Frank and Alice Longbottom
> had likewise made especially important strikes against the Death
> Eaters (just as intelligence agents make major and minor 
> discoveries).

Jen R.: Wish we knew James/Lily's professions. It's easy to imagine 
Aurors challenging Voldemort's power by doing something to undercut 
his plans--taking away followers, exposing secrets, etc. Maybe as 
Order members James/Lily were doing similar things.

Jen R.