The Prophecy and Its Reference to LV

[doddiemoemoe]

No: HPFGUIDX 147957

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "hpfan_mom" 
<rdsilverstein at ...> wrote:
>
> hpfan_mom:
> 
> Just looking at the prophecy again (oh yeah, another exciting 
Friday
> night), and wondered if there'd been posts on this before.
> 
> Trelawney (or the prophecy for which she's the mouthpiece) does not
> name LV as You Know Who, or He Who Must Not Be Named, or 
Voldemort, or
> Tom Riddle. The prophecy refers to him four times as the Dark 
Lord. 
> (Page 841, OOTP, US edition)
> 
> IIRC, that's what the DEs call him.  What could be the 
significance of
> that?  And that's how the prophecy is labeled, Dark Lord and (?) 
Harry
> Potter.  (Page 780)  Who is the keeper of the Hall of Prophecy, the
> wizard who labeled the official record?  (Page 842)
> 
> hpfan_mom


Doddie here:

I always thought that the significance of this was that Snape is 
the 'Dark Lord'... If Snape has been loved and known love(for those 
of us that believe the "Snape loved Lilly" theory..

Harry's scar first hurt when he looked at Snape.

Even with Snape's feeble excuses to Bella for his behaviors 
in "Spinner's End" don't ring quite true...

It appears Snape labeled himself the "Half-blood Prince"...(I could 
see a backstory that could be explained in one book that Snape 
envisioned himself something of a Ruler of ALL--pure/half-
bloods/muggleborns).

Also, so much of Harry's experiences involve the mutual loathing 
between Snape and himself...

It also explains why DD seldom steps inbetween Harry and Snape and 
even sides with Snape.

It also explains why Snape could not kill Harry at the end of 
HBP..Snape must finish playing his hand. (Smart as Snape is...he may 
well have assumed that Voldy created horcruxes after treating DD's 
injured hand.  Also he knows that it is not wise to try and kill 
Harry Potter.(given what happened to voldy) 

If Snape can dupe DD then most certainly can dupe Voldemort; and it 
appears he has been doing so, according to his litany to bellatrix 
in spinners end.

Also, one nagging question in the back of my mind is that Wormtail 
sacrificed a hand for Voldy's rebirth....Snape did nothing..yet...we 
find Wormtail residing with Snape during HB.  Isn't the place of 
the "most honored" next to the master?!??

It's this pairing of Peter Pettigrew and Snape that refrains from 
convincing me that Snape is solely DDM.  PP is supposed to be 
assisting Snape with something...but we are never told what.

I think an argument could be made that voldy sent PP to spy on Snape.

I also wouldn't be surprised if book seven opened with a dead Cissy 
and Draco an essential orphan...


Given all the "blood matters not" arguements they place in the books 
I would not be surprised at all if the Dark Lord, turned out to be 
snape.

We must remember those who call Voldemort the Dark Lord seem to be 
those who were privy to hearing the portion of the prophecy Snape 
heard either directly or through the grapevine...

Given Trelawney's description of what happened at the Hogshead that 
day, I think Snape may have heard more than the first part of the 
prophecy....(why Dd's family could be the key...Aberforth knows..)


And if this is so...this opens up a whole new can of worms.


It would close one can though...we know why Snape treats Neville 
with such disdain. (Aaahh, did snape's bullied years at Hogwarts get 
the best of him and he chose the potter child before the Longbottom 
child?) Was this due to his obsessive love for Lily? Is this what Dd 
see's and is duped by.


And worse yet of all...could Snape have hidden an artifact of the 
horcrux persuasion at hogwarts and kept it safe for voldy all these 
years to lure Voldy into a "false sense of security"?!?

Were the characters of PP and Slughorn forshadowing of "powers 
behind a throne"? Is Snape a combination of the two, or something 
completely different?  Is this why Snape tried to save the trio 
infront of PP in POA?

Did Snape call the dementors to accompany Fudge to accost Barty 
Crouch in GOF?

Are we to take Snape at his work in 'Spinner's End' that he did play 
a role in the death of Sirius?

Are we to believe that Snape actually AK'd DD at the end of HPB?

Every book...Snape is...culpable..(except for CS...yet perhaps Snape 
thought he was ridding himself of Voldy's only horcrux...so let 
event play out as they may, knowning, that in the end Lucius would 
pay the price of dis-favoring Voldy).

Just a few random thoughts that popped into my head after reading 
your post.

Doddie,

(Pebbles always look like pebbles until you smell them)


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