Umbridge

[Geoff Bannister]

No: HPFGUIDX 147972

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "festuco" <vuurdame at ...> wrote:
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> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67@>
> wrote:

Carol:
> > Apparently Umbridge knew from someone (Fudge?) that Harry could
> > produce a Patronus and sent a Dementor after him to make him cast 
> > the spell (in a Muggle neighborhood). I'm pretty sure that she 
> > wanted him discredited, not dead (or rather, soul-sucked). 

Gerry:
> How would she have known the could produce a Patronus? She would
> certainly have heard from Fudge what happened at the lakeside and 
> that was that Harry almost got Kissed because the Dementors went 
> for him and he was only saved in the nick of time. Fudge certainly 
> did not know that it was Harry himself that cast the mysterious 
> Patronus that saved his life, for obvious reasons. 

Geoff:
This takes my mind to a bit of canon which I've never considered 
before:

'"Oh, bravo!" cried Professor Tofty, who was examining Harry again, 
when Harry demonstrated a perfect Boggart banishing spell. "Very good 
indeed! Well, I think that's all Potter... unless..."
He leant forward a little.
"I heard from my dear friend Tiberius Ogden that you can produce a 
Patronus? For a bonus point... ?"
Harry raised his wand, looked directly at Umbridge and imagined her 
being sacked.
"Expecto patronum!"'

(OOTP "OWLs" p630 UK edition)

>From whom did Tiberius Ogden hear this? It suggests that the fact 
that Harry could produce a corporeal Patronus had got into the public 
domain. The only problem might be, whether he had been present at the 
Wizengamot hearing or heard it previous to that date....