What Hermione thinks of Snape as a teacher (LONG)/ a bit of Hermione andTrel

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No: HPFGUIDX 148020

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214"
<dumbledore11214 at ...> wrote:

> I am not comparing Snape with any other teachers right now, I just 
> see no proof in the books that Hermione thinks BETTER of Snape than 
> any other teachers excluding Trelawney and Hagrid and in the case of 
> Trelawney, I am getting more and more convinced that it has more to 
> do with subject than with the teacher and I am NOT calling Trelawney 
> a good teacher either, I just think that Hermione calling her an old 
> fraud may not be substantiated at the end either.

Gerry
Well, unless you believe that she truly knows Lavender's rabbit will
get killed and that she truly foresees Neville breaking the blue cup
instead of that being sheer psychology, and if you truly think
greeting every class with death omens is a sign of someone being
competent in their subject... I would think that a competent teacher
would also spot when students make up their homework instead of really
trying. So yes, old fraud seems a good definition here. 

> Alla:
> 
> She calls Firenze a "horse". I don't see it as proof of respect, 
> quite the contrary.

Gerry
I see that more as being fed up with the star eyed divinations adorers
who are so very impressed because he is handsome. 
> 

> Alla:
> 
> It had been argued that what Trelawney "sees" is actually true for 
> the most part, but she misinterprets what she 'sees". If that is 
> true, I don't think that she is a fraud. She just lacks Seer's 
> talent to correctly interpret her predictions.

Gerry
Well, the only thing which remotely comes to mind is the Grim. And I
think it is a huge leap between Sirius and his later death and a vague
shape in a teacup, especially because she picked Harry as her death
omen victim for this year. She might impress Lavender and Parvati with
her seeing that he has a deadly enemy, but as Hermione says: everybody
knows that. 

> Alla:
> 
> On that I am having big doubts. I think that if Trelawney was 
> teaching something Hermione had more faith in, Hermione would have 
> had very little problems with her as a teacher. But I am just 
> speculating of course.

Gerry
If Trelawny would have shown mastery of the subject instead of using
psychological trickery and inability to spot fake homework she might
have gotten some respect for the subject.

Gerry