Lupin's Spying, WAS: Snape, Hagrid, and Sirius Black

horridporrid03 horridporrid03 at yahoo.com
Fri Feb 17 02:57:41 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 148289

> >>Syndey:
> > It's hard to find specific canon for the R/S
> > thing of course (although the joint christmas present to Harry    
> > was suggestive), but it was a very popular theory before HBP. 

> >>kchuplis:
> OK, my last post for the night as I have trespassed upon the elves 
> enough but just where was Lupin supposed to get money for a gift? 
> <snip>
> Otherwise, I guess I just have discovered that few people have close 
> platonic relationships in real life apparently. (And I point out    
> that I have numerous gay friends and am in no way shy about it. I    
> just think folks are doing an *awful* lot of wishful thinking here.)

Betsy Hp:
Hmm, I'm afraid I kind of set the cat amongst the pigeons here, and I 
apologize for that.  I was, rather flippantly I'll admit, trying to 
enumerate the many ways Lupin confuses me.  Just when I think I've got 
a bead on him, he does something I'd have labeled as completely out of 
character.  A less provoking example would be his general mildness 
with Harry compared with his ability to coldly face executing Peter.

However, it's insulting to suppose that those of us who saw signs of 
Lupin being a gay man (and it *was* a subtle, coded, thing) are 
incapable of either recognizing or having platonic friendships.  It 
kills any sort of conversation dead.  Which should not be the point on 
this sort of list.

Speaking of which....

> >>Sydney:
> Anyways, my original question, of how Lupin could be spying if Peter
> knows he was in the Order, still stands... it's enough to make one an
> ESE!Lupiner!  Not that I am (I don't feel the story going that way at
> all), but like so much about Lupin it all seems hunky-dory until you
> have a close look.  Maybe the cover story is that Lupin's switched
> sides since back in the day, on account of being outed by Snape?

Betsy Hp:
Lupin tells Harry that he's amongst the werewolves when Harry asks 
what he's been up to "lately".  He uses it to excuse his not writing 
Harry any letters. (HBP Scholastic p.334) Which suggests this is a new 
thing.  Also, Lupin was amongst the Order members who faught at the 
MoM.  Could his presence have gone unnoticed?  Could he have been sure 
enough it went unnoticed to feel even semi-secure joining Fenrir?

However, there's a bit about the laws tightening down on werewolves in 
OotP, so it could be that more "passing" werewolves are joining the 
rebel packs.  He does say he's having difficutly gaining their trust, 
so it doesn't sound like he's in the inner circle. Which also leads me 
to wonder if he's had a chance to even meet Fenrir.  How big are these 
packs anyway?  The way Fenrir goes about things there could be a 
greater number of werewolves running around than we've been lead to 
believe.

Also, Fenrir, as the "face" of the werewolves may try and keep away 
from the pack to help keep them well hidden.  But that's sheer 
speculation.

Betsy Hp (fourth post, sorry) 








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