Lupin's Spying, WAS: Snape, Hagrid, and Sirius Black

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> Betsy Hp:
>
> However, it's insulting to suppose that those of us who saw signs of 
> Lupin being a gay man (and it *was* a subtle, coded, thing) are 
> incapable of either recognizing or having platonic friendships.  It 
> kills any sort of conversation dead.  Which should not be the point
> on this sort of list.

Christina

I personally have never understood the exasperation concerning
platonic friendship that comes with the suggestion of Lupin/Sirius. 
Canon is clear that Lupin had several male platonic friends - James
and Peter, of course, and he seems to get on well with Moody and Bill
and Arthur Weasley also.  The suggestion of Lupin/Sirius is to suggest
that Lupin is together with one of his friends, not all of them. 
Hermione is together (err..sort of) with one of her male friends, but
nobody screams out in exasperation, "Don't people understand that
friendships can be platonic?!" because Hermione, like Lupin, has other
platonic friendships that are satisfying and contain no sexual
undertones whatsoever (Harry, Neville).  Even more ridiculous than the
notion that friendships *must* have sexual undertones, is the
suggestion that no friendships *ever* have sexual undertones.  Just
because platonic friendships exist, does not mean that all of one's
friendships are platonic.  Some of a person's close relationships are
bound to have sexual or romantic undertones, just by chance.

Which isn't to say that Lupin-as-gay or Lupin/Sirius are airtight
theories (or well-rounded theories at all) because they aren't, but
there are avenues of objection that make a whole lot more sense than
saying, "Can't they just be friends?" because in real life, a lot of
friendships do grow into something more.  It's just a matter of theory
and preference, like LOLLIPOPS (or ACID POPS, if they're more your
style) or ESE!Anybody.


> Betsy Hp:
> Which also leads me to wonder if he's had a chance to even meet 
> Fenrir.  How big are these packs anyway?  The way Fenrir goes about
> things there could be a greater number of werewolves running around
> than we've been lead to believe.
>
> Also, Fenrir, as the "face" of the werewolves may try and keep away 
> from the pack to help keep them well hidden.  But that's sheer 
> speculation.

Christina:

I do think he's probably met Fenrir, just because Fenrir would
recognize his name (and probably his face also, considering Lupin's
lycanthropy is pretty much public knowledge now), and want to welcome
him into the pack or whatever.  But I think you're right about Fenrir
not being around the werewolves a lot (and not having much contact
with Lupin) - I think his status as a Death Eater gives him other work
to do that is away from his "pack."  Lupin is just one guy in the
entire pack.  Why would Fenrir even see a reason to take a special
interest in him?

Christina