Snape Loved or In-Love with Lily?

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Mon Feb 20 01:59:27 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 148435

> > Alla, who unfortunately is unable to talk herself out of 
Snape/Lily 
> > anymore.
> >
> Carol responds:
> All right, let's try to talk you out of this one!
<snip>
>> Second, where is the actual evidence of any love for Lily, setting
> aside the supposed need for this theory to explain Snape's remorse?

Alla:

There IS no actual evidence yet, of course, just the feel that I get 
as getting stronger with every book and it based as I believe on 
more and more possible hints.

Snape is by no means shy of running his mouth at James, but he never 
EVER speaks one foul word of Lily. Does it mean something? Maybe 
not, but it sure makes me suspicious. When JKR showed ONE scene of 
Snape and Marauders relationship, she chose to interject Lily in. 
Maybe she had done it just to highlight how Lily's opinion of James 
changed for the better? Maybe, but for some reason she chose to make 
Lily interfer on Snape's behalf. Maybe she did it to show that Lily 
is really kind person? Maybe, but JKR chose to make Snape to be  the 
one Lily tries to defend. It again makes me suspicious.

In HBP we learn that Lily was good at Potions just as Snape was. 
Maybe it again totally irrelevant, but maybe that will indeed lead 
us to learn that they were lab partners or something. 

In July 16 interview JKR said that just as Ginny Lily was a popular 
girl and that Remus loved her, but that she did not want us to think 
that Remus was running around competing for Lily with James.( 
paraphrase). Yep, makes total sense for me that Remus will not try 
to compete with his best friend for the girl this friend likes so 
much, but does it mean that SOMEBODY ELSE was running around and 
tried to compete with James? Yep, I think it does, although 
again "everybody in love with Lily" - not my favorite theory,surely, 
but my feel for it getting stronger and stronger. :-(
 
>> Fourth, JKR concedes that Voldemort "offered" to let Lily live, 
but
> what *canon* evidence do we have that this "offer" (a word that JKR
> picks up from the person who asked the question)
>  
> http://www.quick-quote-quill.org/articles/2005/0705-tlc_mugglenet-
anelli-1.htm
> 
> consists of anything beyond "Stand aside, girl"?

Alla:

As to that point, I can only refer you to Jen Reese brilliant post, 
I could not have said it any better.

I do believe that for whatever reasons Voldemort was VERY interested 
in Lily, but of course if I am right, only book seven can prove 
it. :)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/146794


Carol:
<SNIP> 
> It's much simpler and less messy if Snape is not involved, at least
> not until he feels a change in his Dark Mark and informs 
Dumbledore,
> which would not involve anything more complicated than running
> upstairs to the headmaster's office.

Alla:

Right, I believe that Snape was there in GH, but even if you are 
right and he was not there, there are other plot holes that could be 
answered by Snape/Lily ( or more like Snape loving Lily) that Jen 
listed upthread, even though she was thinking that it would explain 
too much. :) (I did not misquote you, right Jen? :))
 
JMO,

Alla







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