[HPforGrownups] Re: Small choice in rotten apples
Kathy King
kking0731 at gmail.com
Mon Feb 20 17:20:01 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 148470
Dung, previously:
Basically, I don't think Harry would be able to get it all done with
one Avada Kedavra on Voldy. I think that another life will have to
be lost.
Snow previously:
Except that you may be forgetting that it is inadvisable to create a
Horcrux with a living thing such as Nagini (or Harry) because they
have a will of their own. HBP U.S. 506
There is a wide-open space for wiggle room for the author to
proclaim that even an unintentional-Horcrux!Harry had a will of his
own so anything can happen as a result.
Dung:
I'm sorry, I don't follow you. How does Harry having free will mean
that anything can happen? I think that (barring Neri and Houyhnhnm's
hope that there's some way of turning the bit of Voldy's soul into a
bit of Harry's soul) the scenario I posted really limits his choices
to the two I outlined, die innocent or live and sin. How are you
saying JKR could wiggle out of this? Have I missed something?
Snow:
My point was that we don't know what can happen (because of the variables)
to a Horcrux that has been encased in a living soul. Dumbledore said that it
would be inadvisable to encase a soul piece inside something that can think
for itself. We don't know what Harry could be capable of doing to destroy
the piece of soul that is a part of him. There may be many doorways to how
Harry can get rid of or influence the soul piece to the extent of destroying
Voldemort as a result because of the free will status.
Snow previously:
JKR is the ultimate, isn't she? She may be bad at maths but the way
in which she combats her expected confrontations (i.e. not all
deatheaters knew each other) is phenomenal. I'm fairly sure this is
one of those accounts.
Dung:
Sorry, I must be being thick, I still don't follow you... Could you
spell it out?
Snow:
I'll try but this may only make sense to me :)
It's as if JKR purposely throws in a wrench so that you can't come to a
constant conclusion. Take the death eaters as an example; you can't be
absolute as to who is definitely a death eater because of the statement made
that not all death eaters knew each other. In this respect anyone could be
death eater, even Lupin :), because JKR through the wrench in to the
equation. Now we have been told, from Slughorn and Dumbledore, the limited
information about Horcruxes but then the wrench is thrown into the equation
when Dumbledore states that it would be inadvisable to encase a soul
fragment in a living thing that has a will of its own. No matter how a
Horcrux in an inanimate object can be destroyed, the equation changes when
the Horcrux is inside a living thinking person or animal. So even if we are
told how a Horcrux can be destroyed inside an inanimate object that
procedure may not be the same as inside a living thing because of the free
will factor.
Snow
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