Snape! Snape! Snape! Snape! Loverly Snape! Wonderful Snape! (long

[juli17 at aol.com]

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Juli:
<SNIP>
> (And, yes, Snape "started" it and basically forced Harry to hate 
him,
> but Harry still has to overcome that hatred or fail his hero's  
quest.)

Alla:

Yeah, agreed on "Snape started it", but want to ask the question 
which I asked in the past, but don't remember the answer from 
anybody from "opposing debating side" :-) Where does it say in the 
books that Harry HAS TO overcome his hatred or fail his quest? No, I 
am not asking for evidence that love will help Harry to win, that is 
crystal clear to me. I am also not asking for evidence that Harry 
will forgive Snape, that is also if not crystal clear to me, then 
definitely very possible. What I am asking I suppose is evidence or 
hints or whatever that if Harry decides not to forgive Snape, he 
will necessarily loose. I am asking for evidence that in order to 
win Harry has to not just feel something positive towards Snape, 
which surely possible if he discovers some information in Snape 
past,which make him pity the man, but also completely overcome the 
feelings of hatred towards someone who hurt him so very badly so 
many times. That is IMO of course.

What I am trying to say again, I guess I just don't see the 
necessity for Harry to feel ONLY positive emotions towards Snape, 
but feel both pity and something more negative at the same time.

I would just find it not very realistic if during one confrontation 
Harry's feelings towards Snape transform from hatred to love. IMO of 
course, it will be something in the middle.

I also don't think that "HAS TO" will play out, because HAS To 
implies to me that Harry will have to force himself to feel 
something good towards Snape. IMO Harry will grant Snape his 
forgiveness rather unexpectedly, maybe even not realising fully why 
he does it, just  that Harry's true nature will shine through.

I don't see Harry telling himself before he goes to bed in book 
7 "must stop hating Snape or will fail my quest". IMO of course.

  
Julie:
I don't see Harry saying that either. And I don't think he has
to feel only positive emotions. He just can't be *ruled* by his
anger and hate. That's the trap Harry is in danger of falling
into, the trap that Snape fell into and where he still resides
even after all these years. 
 
There is nowhere in the books that says Harry *has* to stop 
hating Snape, but there is the implication that he has to 
maintain a pure heart and soul (Dumbledore mentions that Harry
has such, at least to this point). I don't think he can face
Voldemort with a pure heart and soul if he acts against Snape
in vengeance, which is what he wants to do now, and will do if
he's still ruled by his anger and hate when the two meet again.
He'll no doubt still dislike Snape, maybe even hate him if he
is ESE, but he will be able to forgive Snape (which he can only
do if he is able to overcome that driving anger and hate, and
replace it with some level of understanding and compassion/pity). 
 
I hope that explains my position. I do think Voldemort could
use Harry's hate of Snape against him, if Harry allows it, and
Voldemort will probably try if he recognizes it as a potential
weakness ripe for exploitation. Harry's already tried to cast
Unforgivables, but he didn't have the heart to follow through, 
and I feel certain he'll be tempted again in Book 7. But he'll
resist the temptation and do what's right instead of what's easy,
because he is, after all, Dumbledore's Man. And our hero :-)
 
Julie  
 


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