Snape Loved Lily. The Whole Story.

[Ceridwen]

No: HPFGUIDX 148504

Tonks_op:
> Pulling up the stakes, folding the tent, putting out the fire.  
  
> Walking on towards another part of the forest.  Stopping, looking 
> back at the abandoned Snape loves Narcissa camp.  Sigh
   walking 
> on
  seeing clearing ahead.  Yes this looks like a good place to 
> camp, just on the edge of the Snape loved Lily encampment.
> 
> Yes it is official..  I am abandoning the Snape loves Narcissa 
> camp.  After think more about my post of earlier today (see it 
here) 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/148450
> 
> I have decided that this even makes the events of Spinners End 
> plausible in a way that does not involve Snape loving Narcissa.

Ceridwen:
I can't bear to see a perfectly good campsite abandoned!  Why 
couldn't Snape have loved, or crushed on, Narcissa too?  I had plenty 
of crushes in high school and junior high.  I can't imagine that the 
guys all got so obsessed on one girl that they never changed their 
minds when another pretty... face... sashayed by.

Tonks_op:  
> What is really happening isn't that Snape loved Narcissa; it is 
> Snape's torturous memory of his involvement in the death of Lily 
> whom he loved and James whom he had a life debit too.  Snape is a 
> tortured soul, lost in the abyss, bound to keep Harry alive because 
> of his debit to James and his promise to DD.  Seeing Narcissa 
> begging for her son "my only son", just brings back the whole 
memory 
> of the events at GH and his sense of guilt for being the one that 
> told LV of the prophesy. No wonder he turned away when Narcissa 
> collapsed in tears in front of him, he could just imagine that 
> mother being Lily.

Ceridwen:
Or, could it be that he's stacking them, seeing *both* of them, past 
and present, the one he couldn't help, and the one he may be able to 
help?  There's also the possibility that he remembers his mother, 
possibly defending him against a) his father, b) other kids in the 
neighborhood (you've got to admit, he probably didn't fit into a 
Muggle neighborhood) or c) other WW kids who thought he was a freak, 
or at least teased him about being a Half-blood.  Maybe defensive 
mothers are his soft spot?

Tonks_op:
> Poor, poor Snape. Oh what his life might have been if he 
> hadn't "worn his heart on his sleeve", if he had never fallen in 
> love and lost.  Better to never have loved at all!  See the mess 
> that it got him into along with the whole hated of James, and life 
> debit to James.  Maybe Snape could have coped with the death of 
> James and the bad karma, if it hadn't been for Lily.  Not Lily
 no, 
> please not her. Makes you wonder, if the memory in the cave is 
> Snape's.  What a tortured soul he is... tortured and damned
 what a 
> rich character that JKR has brought to life for us. 

Ceridwen:
*pulling up a convenient log and sobbing into her paper towel*  Yes, 
yes, yes, poor Snape!  I do think he's in a terrible position, even 
without unrequited love for either Lily or Narcissa.  Caring for 
people is good, except when LV uses that against a person.  Oh, the 
tragedy!

Tonks_op:
> In the cave DD drank Snape's memory. In so doing he took Snape's 
sin 
> into himself.  And on the tower DD died to save him. It is all 
> starting to come together.

Ceridwen:
I am loving the list these days!  So many wonderful, attractive ideas 
floating around!  DD as Sin-...Drinker (?!).  I like that.  Not sure 
if I agree, but it has some resonance.

I think this is post #3.  But it could be post #4.  If it is, I have 
the iron plugged in and waiting.

Ceridwen, pleading inability to count due to the plethora of 
wonderful ideas recently.