Why does Snape wants DADA job if it cursed? WAS: Re: Snape again

[Jen Reese]

No: HPFGUIDX 148825

quicksilver:
> The idea that it was Snape's mistakes that brought about the
> debacle in HBP along with a helping hand from Voldemort (perhaps)
> is, IMO, perhaps the most...compelling, interesting, insert other 
> word here...outcome of the events of HBP. It makes Snape into a
> truly tragic figure in a way that him being DDM!Snape (with a 
> master plan) or ESE!Snape can't really present. It also makes 
> it...easier on Harry to come to terms with what Snape did because
> Snape allowed his pride and the cunning of Lord Voldemort to bring
> about the events. In a way it's like Ginny in CoS and like 
> Dumbledore said "older and more experienced wizards have been 
> hoodwinked by Lord Voldemort." (I  find there's a lot of cross
> over between CoS and HBP)

Jen: This is sort of a 'me too' because I like the way you explain 
how Harry might see Snape in the case of such events. Harry only 
sees Snape as having all the power in their relationship, unlike the 
other adults in his life where he's noticed and accepted their 
failures. The idea that Lily saw another side of Snape seems almost 
a given to me now as the sand in the hourglass runs out and those 
two seem to be the last ones shrouded in mystery.

If I remember right from past posts, you're also in the camp of 
believing Voldemort had more to do with the events of HBP than we 
saw. I really do think JKR is trying to point out all roads lead to 
Voldemort even when they appear to be solely about another 
character; all the time spent on his back story cemented that idea 
for me. He's not taking away people's power to make choices, he's 
just arranging it so their choices are all ones with bad outcomes. 
That's the key to his power. I will be disappointed to find out he 
wasn't behind manipulating Snape's and Dumbledore's fates in HBP to 
a *certain* extent because all the options were SO bad. My 
estimation of him as an evil overlord would move up to 'impressed'.

quicksilver: 
> Although I'll admit that I'm biased...I love the idea of Snape 
> having no clue at the end of HBP what he's going to do. The idea 
> that Dumbledore had some sort of plan bothers me because 1) the 
> Harry and Snape being forced to work together was done in OotP
> (ask Sirius how that turned out), and 2) both Harry and Snape need 
> to become independent of Dumbledore. The whole concept of forcing 
> people that hate one another to work together doesn't seem to hold 
> after OotP...Dumbledore's attempts with Sirius and Snape and Snape 
> and Harry both seem to fall flat. 

Jen: I think so, too, about Snape not having a clue. He and Harry 
were probably not so different in believing Dumbledore could always 
manage to save the day. Talk about illusions shattered on both sides 
on the tower! Weak!Dumbledore was not supposed to be one of the 
options.

Jen R.