Why does Snape wants DADA job if it cursed? WAS: Re: Snape again

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No: HPFGUIDX 148849

> > Ceridwen:
<SNIP>
 Now I'm wondering if the spying, if it's
> > true, has more to do with Snape getting the job?  Did LV just 
get 
> > tired of excuses and say it had to be done?  Does he doubt 
Snape's 
> > sincere efforts? [ ] Is the curse there to do Dumbledore in?  
It's
> > had its chances... 
> 
> Jen: Now *this* would qualify as a twisted Dark Lord motivation in 
> my book; I'm going to place my bets here, Ceridwen. Plus this 
would 
> make sense of the moment in Dumbledore's office when Voldemort 
> appeared to be considering pulling his wand. "No, not here where 
> he's protected, but he'll rue the day he defied me!" The more I 
> think about it, the more compelling it becomes--if Dumbledore 
won't 
> let Voldemort back into Hogwarts, then Dumbledore won't be able to 
> stay there, either.

Alla:

Hee. I like this motivation too, since it works with ESE!Snape or 
Grey! or OFH!Snape also or even if it does not, I STILL like it, 
just for  the elegance. Bravo, Ceridwen and Jen too. :-)

But yes, if Voldemort placed the real curse, which is supposed to 
play out as described - namely Voldemort's man getting DADA job and 
doing Dumbledore in, wouldn't it mean that the curse ONLY works if 
someone who is truly Voldemort man gets the job? Or am I confused 
here? I am just talking about intentions. If Snape only applies for 
the job for fourteen years to fool Voldemort and in reality he has 
no intention of ever getting the job, wouldn't it mean that when he 
does get a job, the circumstances or fate( driven by the curse) will 
not conspire against him and will not lead him to killing Dumbledore 
since he is not really Voldemort's man?

> Ceridwen:
> > Anyway, if the curse is there to get Dumbledore out, then 
someone 
> > tied to LV (Snape has the Dark Mark, and is at least supposedly 
> > working for LV) would finally get it done, even if he or she
> > didn't want to.  Maybe that's the nature of the curse, and now 
> > that Dumbledore is no longer headmaster, the curse is over.
> > *Maybe*.

Alla:

So, basically you are saying that  the curse will work even if Snape 
is not Voldemort's man anymore, sort of like "Imperio" through Dark 
Mark? Just curious.

Pippin:
<SNIP of the whole post, basically>
> It *is* common knowledge that there's a curse, by the way.
> 
> "People aren't too keen to take it on, see. They're starting to 
think it's
> jinxed. No one's lasted long for a while now" -- Hagrid, ch 7, CoS.


Alla:

Thanks, Pippin. Yeah, that means I should discard "Snape did not 
know about the curse" speculation as not valid, since if Hagrid 
knows about it, surely Snape does. :-)

But I still like Snape believing that he as supremely capable wizard 
can deal with the curse ( that is if he DD!M of course).

> Jen:
 I think so, too, about Snape not having a clue. He and Harry 
> were probably not so different in believing Dumbledore could 
always 
> manage to save the day. Talk about illusions shattered on both 
sides 
> on the tower! Weak!Dumbledore was not supposed to be one of the 
> options.

Alla:

You know, I just thought of something. Not that I dig completely DD!
M Snape of course, but if he emerges and what you said was true - 
that Snape just as Harry expected DD to save the day, there is 
certainly a hint that Snape respected DD power. When Harry tells 
Snape in OOP that DD calls Voldie by his name, Snape says that DD is 
a powerful wizard and can afford to do it ( paraphrase). I prefer to 
think that Snape also started to deeply resent DD of course. :-)

JMO,

Alla