Why does Snape wants DADA job if it cursed? WAS: Re: Snape again

[Ceridwen]

No: HPFGUIDX 148869

> Alla:
> 
> Hee. I like this motivation too, since it works with ESE!Snape or 
> Grey! or OFH!Snape also or even if it does not, I STILL like it, 
> just for  the elegance. Bravo, Ceridwen and Jen too. :-)
> 
> But yes, if Voldemort placed the real curse, which is supposed to 
> play out as described - namely Voldemort's man getting DADA job and 
> doing Dumbledore in, wouldn't it mean that the curse ONLY works if 
> someone who is truly Voldemort man gets the job? Or am I confused 
> here? I am just talking about intentions. If Snape only applies for 
> the job for fourteen years to fool Voldemort and in reality he has 
> no intention of ever getting the job, wouldn't it mean that when he 
> does get a job, the circumstances or fate( driven by the curse) 
will 
> not conspire against him and will not lead him to killing 
Dumbledore 
> since he is not really Voldemort's man?

Ceridwen:
I think the curse senses the Dark Mark and says to itself, 'oho!  
Here's our man!'  It utilizes whatever talents the prof. in question 
has, but somehow or other, the DM adds into it, strengthening the 
curse.  Crouch!Moody wasn't effective, but Crouch!Moody had 
problems.  He wasn't necessarily smart, and he reminded me a bit of a 
male Bellatrix, too wrapped up in LV to have a decent brain of his 
own.  He still did a bit of damage, though, and could have created an 
international incident by Imperio'ing Krum.  Pretty big for 
substandard material!

During HBP, Dumbledore said that intelligent (or was it powerful?  I 
think 'intelligent') wizards (don't have the book handy, just 
paraphrasing from memory) make correspondingly larger mistakes.  
Snape is an intelligent wizard.  So his mistakes will be 
correspondingly larger.

And, if the curse is also set to punish whoever has the job LV 
wanted, then what better punishment for DDM!Snape than killing his 
mentor?  I've toyed with the idea that maybe the curse senses 
loyalty, but then, Crouch!Moody shouldn't have been Kissed.

> 
> > Ceridwen:
> > > Anyway, if the curse is there to get Dumbledore out, then 
> someone 
> > > tied to LV (Snape has the Dark Mark, and is at least supposedly 
> > > working for LV) would finally get it done, even if he or she
> > > didn't want to.  Maybe that's the nature of the curse, and now 
> > > that Dumbledore is no longer headmaster, the curse is over.
> > > *Maybe*.

> Alla:
> 
> So, basically you are saying that  the curse will work even if 
Snape 
> is not Voldemort's man anymore, sort of like "Imperio" through Dark 
> Mark? Just curious.

Ceridwen:
Not like Imperio, but like Imperio.  Not like Imperio in the sense 
that it doesn't compel the person outside of their will.  As zgirnius 
said, Lupin was understandably unsettled enough to leave the castle 
without his Wolfsbane.  He didn't resist, thinking 'OMG, I've got to 
get that potion!'  He was compelled, which is what the Imperio does, 
but through circumstances, not through active agent.  If Snape is 
DDM, the circumstances on the tower would have compelled him to 
perform the AK for whatever reasons (so DD wouldn't be savaged and 
die slowly at Greyback's claws? or whatever).  Since Snape has the 
DM, the curse may be more potent.

*(snipping)*

Alla:
> 
> You know, I just thought of something. Not that I dig completely DD!
> M Snape of course, but if he emerges and what you said was true - 
> that Snape just as Harry expected DD to save the day, there is 
> certainly a hint that Snape respected DD power. When Harry tells 
> Snape in OOP that DD calls Voldie by his name, Snape says that DD 
is 
> a powerful wizard and can afford to do it ( paraphrase). I prefer 
to 
> think that Snape also started to deeply resent DD of course. :-)

Ceridwen:
I do think that Snape had some resentment toward DD, on something 
like a sibling rivalry level, because of Harry.  And sure, it could 
go all the way back to James, and to Sirius and the Prank.  I don't 
think that would necessarily make him turn away from DD, though.  I 
can only go by personal experience and what I hear from others.  But 
resenting a parent figure doesn't necessarily mean you'll turn on 
them.  It just means you have resentment.

And, Snape does admit that Dumbledore is a powerful wizard.  Just as 
DD admits that LV is powerful.  It's dangerous to delude oneself.  I 
think Jen has it right in thinking that Snape, like Harry, believed 
DD could pull this one out of the fire.  He always has before, 
right?  Why not now?  I don't see how this respect could mean only 
DDM!Snape, since even enemies can have respect and admiration for 
competency.  But it has a bigger BANG for DDM!Snape, since he must 
have thought that everything would work out... Surprise, it didn't!

Ceridwen.