Special treatment - yes or no
quick_silver71
quick_silver71 at yahoo.ca
Fri Jan 6 05:05:19 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 145997
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Magpie" <belviso at a...> wrote:
> Magpie:
> Err...no it really doesn't build off that assumption. It just
means that
> when the contest ended Slytherin was in the lead for whatever
reason. It
> never entered my mind that they had to have gotten all their
points in
> exceptionally admirable ways. I would think most of their points
were
> gotten in fairly ordinary ways. If losing points over Norbert is
the issue,
> then that's solved by the giving of the points, period. Slytherin
didn't
> take the points away from the Trio for Norbert, McGonagall did
when they get
> themselves caught by Filch (while gloating about Draco's own
detention).
>
> Basically you seem to just be saying exactly what Betsy is seeing,
that
> Gryffindor needs to be given the cup in this way to make it clear
that the
> people in their house are superior to the ones in Slytherin. The
Gryffindor
> points should be worth more.
>
> -m
Maybe the scene in PS/SS was meant to be laced with irony? I mean
I've always thought (and heard throughout the fandom) that Slytherin
was the house of the cunning, devious, those that would do anything
to win, etc, etc. Isn't the sort of what Harry and co. does
win the
cup at any cost from Slytherin? I wonder if the Slytherin's didn't
so much resent the lose of house cup as they did the fact that
they'd been outmaneuvered, out-gunned, and overpowered by Harry and
Dumbledore (I wonder
if Slytherin is all for using everything and
anything to win would they even see it as a cheap move or
favoritism?).
Didn't Dumbledore do something very similar to Snape in PoA
(although way more justified)? Dumbledore snatched Snape's glory
(and chance of revenge) away from him but helping to free Sirius. So
it not like the ending scene of PS/SS is abnormal on Dumbledore's
part
we've seen him repeat it.
As for the issue of House unity and how it was affected by
Dumbledore's actions in PS/SS (just a view of the extreme opposite
of what everyone else has been saying
being the contrary person that
I am)
maybe Dumbledore felt he was helping House unity? Slytherin
had won the house cup 7 times (or something like that) in a row so
maybe Dumbledore felt that it was a bad thing to have one house so
ascendant. Granted it doesn't seem to have worked but maybe he
thought that he was humbling Slytherin? Just a thought.
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