Special treatment - yes or no

quick_silver71 quick_silver71 at yahoo.ca
Fri Jan 6 05:12:19 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 145998

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "quick_silver71" 
<quick_silver71 at y...> wrote:
>
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Magpie" <belviso at a...> 
wrote:
> > Magpie:
> > Err...no it really doesn't build off that assumption.  It just 
> means that 
> > when the contest ended Slytherin was in the lead for whatever 
> reason.  It 
> > never entered my mind that they had to have gotten all their 
> points in 
> > exceptionally admirable ways.  I would think most of their 
points 
> were 
> > gotten in fairly ordinary ways. If losing points over Norbert is 
> the issue, 
> > then that's solved by the giving of the points, period.  
Slytherin 
> didn't 
> > take the points away from the Trio for Norbert, McGonagall did 
> when they get 
> > themselves caught by Filch (while gloating about Draco's own 
> detention).
> > 
> > Basically you seem to just be saying exactly what Betsy is 
seeing, 
> that 
> > Gryffindor needs to be given the cup in this way to make it 
clear 
> that the 
> > people in their house are superior to the ones in Slytherin.  
The 
> Gryffindor 
> > points should be worth more.
> > 
> > -m
     Maybe the scene in PS/SS was meant to be laced with irony? I 
mean I've always thought (and heard throughout the fandom) that 
 Slytherin was the house of the cunning, devious, those that would 
do anything to win, etc, etc. Isn't the sort of what Harry and co. 
does
win the cup at any cost from Slytherin? I wonder if the 
Slytherin's didn't so much resent the lose of house cup as they did 
the fact that they'd been outmaneuvered, out-gunned, and overpowered 
by Harry and Dumbledore (I wonder
if Slytherin is all for using 
everything and anything to win would they even see it as a cheap 
move or favoritism?). 
 
      Didn't Dumbledore do something very similar to Snape in PoA 
 (although way more justified)? Dumbledore snatched Snape's glory 
 (and chance of revenge) away from him but helping to free Sirius. 
 So it not like the ending scene of PS/SS is abnormal on  
Dumbledore's part
we've seen him repeat it. 
 
      As for the issue of House unity and how it was affected by 
 Dumbledore's actions in PS/SS (just a view of the extreme opposite 
 of what everyone else has been saying
being the contrary person 
 that I am)
maybe Dumbledore felt he was helping House unity? 
Slytherin had won the house cup 7 times (or something like that) in 
a row so maybe Dumbledore felt that it was a bad thing to have one 
house so  ascendant. Granted it doesn't seem to have worked but 
maybe he thought that he was humbling Slytherin? Just a thought.

Quick_Silver (saying sorry for not signing his post)








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