Let's talk about Lupin

[kiricat4001]

No: HPFGUIDX 146092

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> 
wrote:
>
> 
> > 
> > Marianne:
> > 
> > All well and good, but from my perspective as a reader, I have 
not 
> > seen any indication of *Lupin's* feelings.  Yes, we see early 
and 
> > often that Tonks is laboring under some sort of problem.  But we 
see 
> > nothing of Lupin that suggests, IMO, that he's ever returned 
Tonks's 
> > feelings.  He's pensive by the fireside at Christmas, but that's 
> > when he seems most oddly un-Lupin-like to me.  All we seen from 
him 
> > directly with regards to his own feelings towards Tonks, and 
from 
> > his own mouth, is that he's tried to push her away.  
> > 
> > You may very well be right in all of your comments. But, to me, 
the 
> > case for a couple in love is lacking from the behavior and words 
of 
> > one half of the couple, which gets back to lindsay's original 
> > comments of this not being one of those pairings that's been 
> > foreshadowed. 
> 
> Pippin:
> 
> Let me ask, if I'm right and Lupin was  turned by Voldemort,
> forced to kill Sirius and cooperate with The Plan in order to keep 
> this secret...isn't his behavior in HBP  just what you'd expect? 
> Distant, stilted, non-committal, staring into the fire, and a 
sudden
> wild outburst of emotion when it all goes wrong *again* (from the 
> pov of a reluctant DE who was expecting Draco to fail and
> Snape to die) and Dumbledore is killed? 

Marianne:
<<trying really, really hard to see ESE!Lupin>>  I suppose I could 
buy that, although if it turns out that you're right, I'll be sorely 
disappointed. However, a tip of the hat to you for sticking to your 
ESE!Lupin theory.

My question, though, is why would Lupin need to know about the plan 
to kill DD and who would have told him about the Unbreakable Vow?  
Or would he have only known about the plan at the moment it was 
unfolding to its end on the Tower?  If he knew well in advance of 
the plan, he might very well expect Draco to fail, but he wouldn't 
necessarily know anything about the possibility of Snape dying as a 
result of the UV. 

Another big hesitation I have with ESE!Lupin is I forget why he 
would have turned to Vmort in the first place.  Surely Lupin doesn't 
believe that he, a tainted dark creature, will be given the same 
rights as pure-bloods once the DEs are in power. Am I missing some 
other reason?

Marianne