[HPforGrownups] Let's talk about Lupin

Magda Grantwich mgrantwich at yahoo.com
Sun Jan 8 12:50:25 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 146093

--- lindseyharrisst <lindseyharrisst at hotmail.com> wrote:

> What does the group think of the Lupin shipping in HBP? I 
> contend that it is... 

> a. not foreshadowed or calculable, even in retrospect, 
> contrary to most things in the books, esp. shipping

True, but since 98% of what we see takes place when Harry is in the
room, it's not surprising that we're not aware of what the adults are
up to.  And Harry's not the most observant of people when he is in
the room.

> b. because it is a narrative afterthought it was not well 
> thought out, what good could Lupin and Tonks see in each other 
> (over being with someone else, or alone)?

I'm sure Tonks is a fine, wonderful young woman who would make any
wizard a great lifetime companion, so that would explain what Lupin
(or anyone) would see in her.  

Lupin has that gentle quality that a lot of women are attracted to -
it gives men an air of being sensitive, of reading poetry and then
staring pensively into the firelight.  (And he knows what it's like
to have his "monthlies" and can be empathetic when appropriate. 
Paradise.)

> c. does it seem in chracter for Lupin to fall in love (and with
> Tonks)?

No, it doesn't seem in character for Lupin to fall in love because
during his explanation scene in POA he seems to regard even being
friends with him as some horrible fate for James, Sirius and Peter as
teenagers.  Lupin has too many issues over his condition to ever let
his emotions go enough to fall in love.

> d. Do you think it's authentic love on his or her part?

There's a "let's match these two up!" haphazard quality to this ship
that struck as decidedly off.  Lupin's attempted rejection of Tonks
seemed like the act of a man desperately avoiding a trap and that
seemed much more realistic to me.  And I didn't like the way Tonks
went all passive and mopey over her love during the book.  

When she popped up in the third floor corridor in front of Harry, I
thought it was Poly-juiced Draco.  I still find it bizarre that it
was really her.  

> who thinks JK now has more shipping than P&O, and it's not a 
> good  thing)

It's not the shipping I mind but rather the quality of the cargo. 
Ron turned into a total doofus, Hermoine into a shrew, Harry's
roaring monster gave me the giggles and Ginny unleashed her inner
bitch.  Not sure it made young love look very attractive.  Personally
I think that if JKR has any ambitions to be a romance writer, a
sympathetic but firm editor needs to sit her down for a long chat.

Magda


		
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