Did Snape see Peter on the Map or not? WAS: Re: Essays about Snape on Lexicon

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> Alla wrote:
> <snip> 
>  
> > Did Snape indeed see Peter on the Map? Because if he did, his 
> > behaviour in the Shack indeed goes from insane to malicious to 
me.
> IMO of course. <snip>
> 
> Carol responds:
> 
> Lupin sees Sirius pulling Ron and Pettigrew (in rat form) into the
> tunnel under the Whomping Willow (PoA Am. ed. 348) and enters it "a
> few minutes" after Harry and Hermione (404). By that time, Padfoot,
> moving quickly, has dragged Ron into the Shrieking Shack. (Sirius 
and
> the Trio have six pages of dialogue before he arrives at a run.)
> 
> Snape sees Lupin, and only Lupin, when he's already inside the 
tunnel:
> 
> "Lying on your desk was a certain map. One glance at it told me 
all I
> needed to know. I saw you running along this passageway *and out of
> sight*." (PoA Am. ed. 358). So the Shrieking Shack itself is off 
the
> map (the tunnel shows up on the map only when it's on Hogwarts
> grounds, not when it enters Hogsmeade). Sirius, HRH, and Pettigrew
> were in the Shack and off the map when Snape saw it.
> 
> So rather than assume malice and insanity, I think it's best to go
> with canon.


Alla:

Thank you for the quote, BUT I did NOT assume insanity - THAT was 
and till the final book comes out my most favorable interpretation 
of how Snape behaved in the Shack towards Sirius and Remus. Others 
interpretations are not that charitable. That is of course just an 
intepretation, but I absolutely do NOT see Snape behaving in Shack 
as a sane person, that is if he is a good guy and did not know about 
Sirius being innocent. IMO of course. 

"KEEP QUIET, YOU STUPID GIRL!" Snape shouted , looking suddenly 
quite deranged. " DON"T TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU DON"T UNDERSTAND!" A few 
sparks shout out of the end of his wand, which was still pointd at 
Black's face. Hermione fell silent" - PoA, p.360. paperback.

To me that is NOT how sane person behaves. Everybody was behaving 
not quite sane there of course. Again, all of that is only valid to 
me if Snape indeed did not know about Peter which I doubt more and 
more, because if he did - he was committing a very bad act, the act 
which only a person of great malice could commit IMO.

As to whom Snape saw on the map, that is why I asked the question - 
I was not sure that the author of the Essay was correct on that 
point and if we believe Snape, she is not. Nevertheless, if Snape IS 
Evil, he will not acknowledge to Lupin whom he really saw on the map.

It is especially questionable, IF we are not sure about the timing. 
How do we know that Snape indeed took a look on the Map only when 
Sirius already dragged Ron to Shack.

Do we even know from anybody else that Shack is indeed off the Map? 
I just don't remember, but it could be so of course.

IMO,

Alla