Nagini etymology + snakes' lifespan?
h2so3f
h2so3f at yahoo.com
Wed Jan 11 04:07:14 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 146228
BD wrote:
"Boa is a non-venomous constrictor while Nagini is a venomous cobra.
Nagini is a name derived from Indian word Nag (meaning cobra) and
the suffix -ini denoting the female of the species." <SNIP>
CH3ed:
I wonder if JKR is doing the same with Nagini what she did with
other mythical creatures in her books, you know, kind of reinventing
them so they aren't exactly like what you hear of them elsewhere.
I'm a bit skeptical about Nagini being a cobra, since cobras are
distinctly recognizable by the hooded shape of its head with the
upside-down V marking on the back. No such characteristics have been
noted about Nagini in the books.
carol wrote: <snip>
"I had thought that the mortality of both human beings and living
creatures like Nagini would be a reason not to use one as a Horcrux
(most of the others seem to be made of incorruptible gold) because
the Horcrux would be destroyed when the creature or person died, but
if you're right, I can understand Voldy wanting his dear Nagini, the
only living being he cares about (rather like Filch and Mrs. Norris),
sharing his immortality with him. But the argument against
deliberately creating a *human* Horcrux still applies."
CH3ed:
I wonder if being made a horcrux would really make Nagini immortal,
tho. It seems the horcrux soul pieces are not exactly immortal since
they can be destroyed (tho their existence makes the home soul piece
immortal... can't be destroyed in any way). I mean, the horcrux soul
piece may live forever (until it is killed), but Nagini's soul could
die, ay? How would this work? Would the LV soul piece take over
Nagini's body when her soul dies? And along with the mortality of
living things, DD is right in that putting a soul piece into
something that has its own mind might not be such a good idea.
I wonder how loyal Nagini is (I mean, snakes aren't often portrayed
as epitome for that trait), considering that LV probably shortened
her life needlessly by possessing her when he went to case out the
DoM (and bit Arthur in the process) in OotP. I'm assuming that LV's
speech in the GoF graveyard scene that possession shortens the
snakes' life span applies. Couldn't LV have used L. Malfoy instead?
After-all, Malfoy and the other DEs did get into the DoM Hall of
Prophesy to wait for Harry and co to arrive. I wonder how the fact
that Nagini has her own mind would contribute to the destruction of
the horcrux soul piece in her.
Carol wrote:
" wondering how Voldemort expects to protect his still mortal
body against aging since it's only his soul that's protected by the
Horcruxes"
CH3ed:
Good catch! The same thing with Tolkien's elves, maybe? I've often
wondered about there being young elves and old elves... They don't
die naturally but they don't seem to physically stop aging at a
certain point either.
CH3ed :O)
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