The Last Horcrux Still Unmade

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No: HPFGUIDX 146480

Adi wrote: <snip and edited>
"There is no evidence that Voldemort has turned Nagini into a 
horcrux and that too, after the murder of a foul muggle, if the 
whole theory of making horcruxes is to make them after a 
particularly important murder."


CH3ed:
No evidence except for DD's shrewed guess, and DD's shrewed guesses 
have a way of turning out to be right. ;O) 

Despite the facade of supreme self-confidence, Voldy has doubts and 
fears about Harry. He must. Voldy, the self-proclaimed greatest 
wizard who ever lived (ever since he was 16), has failed to kill 
Harry the underage half-blooded wizard 4 times now. And one of those 
time he came out worse in a head to head duel (Harry forced Voldy's 
wand to regurgitate spells, not the other way around). I think the 
part of the prophecy Voldy knows of haunts him (Harry has the power 
to vanquish Voldy), and I think that if Voldy hadn't made the 6th 
and final horcrux by the beginning of GoF, he would have done so by 
the end of that book... after the graveyard scene.
 

Adi wrote:
 "Further, if Voldemort's quest for seven-part soul and seven 
horcruxes is anyway significant, then there seems to be no grand 
effect of making seven horcruxes. If Voldemort had turned Nagingi 
into a horcrux after Frank's murder, there should have been some 
significant fallout to his state. But there is none. He is still in 
that child-like state till Harry is kidnapped later in the novel. So 
what gives?" 


CH3ed:
Seven soul pieces but 6 horcruxes, I believe, the home soul piece 
lives in his body. I don't think we were given enough information to 
be able to tell if there has been any change in snake-baby!Voldy's 
appearance from the beginning of GoF to the Graveyard Scene. If 
Harry noticed any differences, the narrative doesn't tell us. So 
that is inconclusive either way. The changes that comes after making 
1 horcrux isn't necessarily drastic. The Tom Riddle that went to see 
Hepzibah Smith and her relics in HBP memories probably had made a 
horcrux already, and Harry only noticed minor changes like reddish 
eyes. Not enough to alarm Mrs. Smith (she just thought he worked too 
much). 


Adi wrote: 
"The reasons adduced by Dumbledore on why he thinks Nagini is a 
horcrux are no reason at all because Nagini is devoted and faithful  
and seems to share an unusual relationship with him even before the 
Frank Bryce murder. And in Goblet of Fire we see that Voldemort does 
not want to settle down for a cheap alternative and prefers to wait 
for harry's blood eventhough it is hard to get. So why would he 
settle down for Nagini when his original quest is to get the objects 
of the four original founders."


CH3ed:
It does seem that Voldy shares an unusual relationship with Nagini. 
I don't think we have seen enough of them together before Frank 
snuffed it to be able to say that Nagini was devoted and faithful. 
Snakes aren't known for those traits. I suspect Nagini might turn on 
Voldy before it is all over. Either her or some of the 'devoted' DEs 
or both. I don't have evidence for it...just my suspicion. People 
who rule by fear usually don't inspire true loyalty. And the 
fanatics like Bella might just snap back at Voldy if she feels 
betrayed by him in the end.

As to why would Voldy go ahead and make Nagini a horcrux, I'd think 
that if not before, then what happened in the GoF graveyard scene 
should have convinced him he had better get the full protection ASAP 
rather than waiting around. Harry was only 14 then when he out 
dueled Voldy, and Harry is only getting stronger with age.


Adi wrote:
"Is Dumbledore's theory supposed to be one of those clues? Is the 
intellectual map for Harry all set out and all he has to do is find 
out the remaining horcruxes or is there going to be some bafflement 
for Harry and ourselves along the way?"


CH3ed:
I think the ground work is set out by DD, yep. There are 4 more 
horcruxes for Harry to search and destroy before he go after Voldy. 
But I think we can trust Jo to throw us something off-guard along 
the way. She is the master at that. Tho the general layout for Book 
7 is pretty much clear, I expect it to be an exciting read, 
nonetheless.

CH3ed :O)