Harry Vanquishing LV without killing him.

[Geoff Bannister]

No: HPFGUIDX 146540

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at y...> wrote:
>
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Geoff Bannister"
> <gbannister10 at t...> wrote:
> > 
> > Geoff:
> > ...edited...
> > 
> > I accept that Caesarean section can be considered to be "not of
> > woman born" but **no way** did Birnam wood come to Dunsinane.  
> > I might just as well pick up a branch in my local wood and claim
> > that I am a tree - which I'm not! ...
> >
> 
> bboyminn:
> 
> Actually, Birnam Wood did literally come to Dunsinane Hill. Here in
> the midwest of the USA, we don't refer to a stand of trees as 'a 
wood'
> we call it 'a woods' as in my brother and I went walking in the 
woods.
>  Wood is a bunch of sawed up boards harvested from trees. Now I'm 
only
> maginally knowledgable with the story of MacBeth, but I'm pretty 
sure
> in the story 'wood' from the forest of Birnam did make an appearance
> at Dunsinane Hill. 

Geoff:
I must disagree here. In English, the usage is slightly different. I 
agree that I often take my dogs for about 5 miles a day walking "in 
the woods" but Wood and Woods are both used to designate specific 
areas. Within a couple of miles or so or where I live, there is 
Horner Wood, Stoke Wood, Wilmersham Wood, Worthy Wood and so on; 
sometimes, these join up with each other but the term Woods is 
usually applied to a more extensive area, such as Selworthy Woods, 
Bossington Woods.

Shakespeare is quite specific with indicating that Birnam Wood is a 
place and that the prophecy of the wood moving is (apparently) 
happening:

Act V, Scene 4
SIWARD: What wood is this before us?
MENTIETH: The wood of Birnam.

Act V, Scene 5
MACBETH: ...Thou comest to use thy tongue: thy story quickly.
MESSENGER: Gracious my lord,
I should report that which I say I saw,
But know not how to do it.
MACBETH: Well, say sir.
MESSENGER: As I did stand my watch upon the hill
I look'd toward Birnam, and anon methought
The Wood began to move.
 
We already know that the witches' intent is to bring Macbeth down and 
are using prophecies which can be, and are, misinterpreted. Is there 
a power at work trying to mislead Voldemort? I shall have to spend a 
lttle longer considering post again when I have more time.