The Training of Harry Was Re: CHAPDISC: HBP8, Snape Victorious

[quick_silver71]

No: HPFGUIDX 146695

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at y...> wrote:
>Steve: Once again we have a case of Dumbledore not giving important
> information because he doesn't feel the person has an immediate 
need
> to know, and once again, it is to everyone's great detriment.
> 
> We did find out how Dumbledore injured his hand, he was breaking 
the
> curse on and releasing the soul bit from the Ring Horcrux. That's 
nice
> to know, but it doesn't help Harry. Harry will have to break curse 
and
> he will have to release the soul bit from their Horcruses, and it
> would have been very valuable information for him to know the 
details
> of what Dumbledore did and how the injury occured. Harry will
> certainly face similar injuries himself, and it would have helped
> greatly if Dumbledore had made him aware of some of the pitfalls. 
> 
> By withholding details, Dumbledore has left Harry completely
> unprepared to tackle the remaining Horcruxes. I can accept that
> Dumbledore was busy and away from the castle frequently, but if he
> really valued Harry and accepted the task Harry had ahead of him, 
he
> would have taken a few seconds to talk to him, and would have set
> someone else the task of bringing Harry up to speed on curse 
breaking
> and Horcrux destroying. 
> 
> I'm not sure if Dumbledore's genius is so high that he assumes
> everyone knows what he knows, or at least can find out. Could it be
> that he operates on such a high level that he can comprehend the 
needs
>  and level of function of other people. Or, is it simply a case of
> Dumbledore keeping information to himself. He only tells people 
what
> he thinks they need to know in the moment with no thought for what
> they may need to know in the future. 
> 
> Either way, it irritates me to know end that the people supporting
> Harry have left him so ill-prepared for the task ahead.

Maybe Dumbledore didn't feel that formal training in either curse 
breaking or Horcrux destroying was what Harry needed though. Or 
maybe those things would actually be an impendent to Harry 
succeeding in his mission. JK herself has said that Dumbledore was 
mainly self-taught so it could be that he takes the view that one 
must discover their own ways of dealing with things. From the three 
Horcruxs that we have seen so far I'd tend to agree with Dumbledore. 
The dairy was basically unprotected from destruction, the ring was 
concealed with enchantments and carried a powerful curse, and the 
locket was guarded by the potion and an army of the undead along 
with being in an out of the way location (along with a concealed 
entrance and boat ride). So it could be that Dumbledore didn't want 
to put Harry in intensive training for skills that he might never 
need. 

I also would like to think that Voldemort has been a good job of 
protecting the Horcruxs from people as "common" as a curse breaker. 
Surely Voldemort has heard of the concept of curse breaking and 
added a little trick or two to his curses. The fact that the DADA 
curse is still in place after all of these years speaks to 
Voldemort's skills. Also people like Bill Weasley (a name often 
thrown around as helping Harry) are often described as breaking 
Egyptian curses
not exactly up to date. 

Rather I think that Harry should have been paying close attention to 
Dumbledore's investigative skills
his cunning at getting 
information, the way that he connected dots and followed through 
leads, and his knowledge of how Voldemort works. And I do think that 
Dumbledore showed Harry those things in HBP
hence the pensieve trips 
to watch Dumbledore in action, the task involving Slughorn, and the 
fact that Harry is connected to Voldemort's mind and has been within 
it. Take as an example how Harry got the memory from Slughorn
the 
basis of that idea, to get Slughorn drunk, was in Harry's head the 
day that Ron was poisoned. So Harry has the right idea he just 
needed the Felix potion to jingle the circumstances a little. 

Quick_Silver