Remus, Sirius and Harry's desires for revenge WAS: Re: Spies, Lies and self-ful

[susanbones2003]

No: HPFGUIDX 146761

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> 
wrote:
>
> > His voice is "light and casual", then he speaks "more coldly"
> "evenly" and "grimly."
> 
> As they're about to kill Peter, Black is shaking, he is described
> as having "a terrible fury in his face." Not Lupin.
> 
> "You should have realized," said Lupin quietly, "if Voldemort 
> didn't kill you, we would. Good-bye, Peter."
> 
> I don't really see Lupin losing his cool here. And who is the 'we'
> Lupin is referring to, since he must know that the Order, and 
Sirius
> himself in better times, are opposed to killing? Why should
> Peter have expected to be killed? Well, Sirius answered that
> question for us. It's Voldemort's old supporters that Peter
> was afraid of, they're the ones who want him dead.
> 
> 
> Pippin

Pippin,
This is a reverse question but some previous posters seem to think 
that Lupin can not be the spy because JKR has gone out of her way to 
portray his problems with sympathy. And that somehow it would betray 
her stance by indeed making the "messed-up" guy the villain. I am 
condensing this argument but I think I have the gist of it. Isn't it 
a condescension on our part if we say that the guy with 
the "disability" can't be the bad guy? JKR's handiest tool is 
misdirection and in the paragraphs above you navigate in a chilling 
way through the reasoning necessary to see that indeed, Lupin is 
capable of killing. It seems somehow we have to reconcile the Lupin 
that we want to care for because of all his difficulties with the 
Lupin you reveal to us by simply reading the text with a clear eye.
Jen D.