Snape again

[zgirnius]

No: HPFGUIDX 146880


> Alla:
> 
> I think to learn that your wife is a witch  and son is a wizard 
> could be pretty explosive revelation. Again, it does not mean that 
> Tobias should have reacted that way, of course, but such revelation 
> caused Tom Riddle Sr. to leave his wife, you know.
> 
> I think it is possible to assume that Tobias got pretty mad. What 
if 
> Eileen used love potion on him too?
> 
> Oh, and of course there is no way Tobias could have teach little 
> Severus all those dark curses he knew when he showed up in 
Hogwarts, 
> IMO. So, Eileen or her family are the best candidates, IMO.

zgirnius:
Oh, certainly. I do not doubt Eileen, or perhaps Severus' Prince 
grandparents, must have taught him some jinxes/hexes before he ever 
came to Hogwarts. Hence Sirius' comments about his knowledge of the 
Dark Arts as a first year. This is in my opinion beside the point. It 
is also possible that Eileen, whose physical description in HBP is 
unprepossessing, made a love potion to ensnare poor Muggle Tobias. 
(Why? Who knows...so THAT is why she held on to that Potions text!!) 
And a combination of these factors might make abusive behavior by 
Tobias understandable to me on a human level. I was not attempting to 
suggest that he was the bad guy, and poor Eileen was the good guy. I 
was attempting to support kchuplis's suggestion that Severus came 
from a bad home situation. To the young child trapped in that 
situation, it does not matter who is at fault. It is just not a good 
way to grow up.

> Alla:
> 
> Sorry, on that I entirely disagree. I think and I am really not 
> going to go into all details ( if asked will provide my past 
posts), 
> but I think  we are missing A LOT of information about Prank and 
> since JKR promised more information, I think we are due for some 
> more revelations. I think Prank revelations may show a lot of 
> interesting reasons for Snape/Marauders relationships. But again my 
> point is I don't think that Prank shows anything except that Snape 
> and Marauders hated each other, but not answers Why, so far.

zgirnius:
In my opinion, it does not matter WHY Snape and the Marauders hated 
each other initially. 

> Alla:
> Again, since I gotten those types of arguments in the past, just 
> want to say it again - my extreme adamance about us not having 
> NEARLY enough information about Snape/Marauders relationship has 
> nothing to do with liking Sirius a lot and wanting to slap Snape 
> multiple times.

zgirnius:
Oh, I have kind of a soft spot for Sirius myself. He seems (based on 
my understanding of the Marauders) to have been a really 
objectionable teenager, but he had a really lousy life as you point 
out below. And (though you don't point it out) a crummy family as 
well. And personally I admired his decision to show up at the 
Ministry. I didn't agree with it...but it did showcase some of his 
best traits. 

But this in no way means that his actions towards Snape were not 
damaging to Snape.