Snape again

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No: HPFGUIDX 146878

> kchuplis:
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> The one area I rather disagree is with Sirius. IMO, Sirius would 
have 
> been there at the ministry to get Harry whether Snape had been 
goading 
> him for a year or not. I think Harry thinks the same thing. It 
just 
> makes him even angrier at Snape.

Alla:

I decided to clarify my position on list too. I don't disagree with 
you. Sirius would have been in MoM, Snape or no Snape , simply 
because he loved Harry, so no argument from me. And Harry mentions 
that he blames Snape because it is easier than to blame himself.

So, if Snape did not give the information on Sirius which he 
mentions in Spinner's End, he is not to blame for Sirius death, of 
course.

> zgirnius:
> Karen, great post to start this thread, I really liked it! I agree 
> with your comment here, but also would like to add that the 
> description of the woman (assuming she was Eileen) suggests this 
was 
> not an isolated incident. She is described as 'cowering'. As 
> in, 'shrinking back in fear'. A more natural reaction in my view 
to a 
> first and only instance of being yelled at abuseively by a husband 
> might be to cry, or yell back, depending on one's personality. 
> Shrinking back in fear when someone is shouting seems excessive to 
> me, unless there is prior experience which suggests things could 
get 
> worse.

Alla:

I think to learn that your wife is a witch  and son is a wizard 
could be pretty explosive revelation. Again, it does not mean that 
Tobias should have reacted that way, of course, but such revelation 
caused Tom Riddle Sr. to leave his wife, you know.

I think it is possible to assume that Tobias got pretty mad. What if 
Eileen used love potion on him too?

Oh, and of course there is no way Tobias could have teach little 
Severus all those dark curses he knew when he showed up in Hogwarts, 
IMO. So, Eileen or her family are the best candidates, IMO.

> zgirnius:
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> And we have evidence of a second incident. Yes, of course Snape 
had 
> no business being out of his dorm after hours. But Sirius had no 
> business passing on to him the information about how to get by the 
> Whomping Willow either...

Alla:

Sorry, on that I entirely disagree. I think and I am really not 
going to go into all details ( if asked will provide my past posts), 
but I think  we are missing A LOT of information about Prank and 
since JKR promised more information, I think we are due for some 
more revelations. I think Prank revelations may show a lot of 
interesting reasons for Snape/Marauders relationships. But again my 
point is I don't think that Prank shows anything except that Snape 
and Marauders hated each other, but not answers Why, so far.

Again, since I gotten those types of arguments in the past, just 
want to say it again - my extreme adamance about us not having 
NEARLY enough information about Snape/Marauders relationship has 
nothing to do with liking Sirius a lot and wanting to slap Snape 
multiple times.

Even if the final revelations of the books will show that Snape was 
an innocent victim of big bad Marauders and never did anything bad 
to them, I will still think that Sirius paid for  the sins of his 
youth ten times more than he should have paid in Azkaban and will 
not like him any less I do now.

So, I honestly think on pure intellectual level that there are HUGE 
holes in their past and that snap shots we have seen may show us the 
distorted picture. I could be wrong of course.

JMO,

Alla