The Secret Revealed! ESE!Arthur

[Richard]

No: HPFGUIDX 147065

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "olivierfouquet2000" 
<olivier.fouquet+harry at m...> wrote:
>
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Geoff Bannister" 
<gbannister10 at t...> wrote:
> > Geoff:
> > But how do you explain Harry's vision of the attack in OOTP? 
Surely 
> > Arthur couldn't produce the impression which Harry had of being 
the 
> > snake?
> > 
> > And how do Arthur's injuries which brought him to St.Mungo's fit 
in 
> > with this intriguing theory? He was supposed to have wounds that 
would 
> > not heal properly for example. Had he got nurses who were secret 
> > supporters with him? Or were they under the Imperius curse? If 
so, he 
> > had been very busy with his wand.
> >
> 
> Olivier
> Right, let's go back to what happened. LV possessed a snake and 
attacked a sleeping 
> Arthur. He wounded him badly, and Arthur would have died if he 
hadn't been discovered. 
> Now think about it: why didn't LV kill Arthur once and for all? 
Arthur was unconscious, 
> defenseless. One more bite and he was gone. The ESE!Arthur theory 
simply states that 
> Arthur and LV deliberately engineered this attack. Arthur was 
going to be hurt badly 
> enough so that Harry would be absolutely convinced his visions 
were important and 
> necessary. You'll notice that it's when Harry mentions this event 
that Ron is convinced that 
> Sirius is trapped in the Ministry, and the change of allegiance of 
Ron is what finally 
> switches the balance. 
<snip>

Richard here:

We're talking about the toxic effects of venom from a snake bite, 
not the blood loss and tissue damage from the bite of a grizzly bear 
or some other large, toothsome and beclawed predator.  Where some 
creatures would be able to kill due to the severity of the wounds 
they can inflict on an victim that is hors de combat, snake venom 
takes time, with different venoms taking differing times according 
to quantity, type and location of injection.  Also, snakes don't 
have an infinite supply of venom.  A few bites, and it will take 
some time to replenish a supply that we are also informed Voldemort 
is dependent upon for his survival.  So, I think asserting, "One 
more bite and he was gone," stretches the facts more than a bit.

As for my reading of Ron's reaction, and Harry's behavior, I see it 
more as Harry working through the "facts," and slowly coming to 
conclusions about what must be done, and Ron simply being the 
frequently clueless git he tends to be.

So, these two points don't seem to support and ESE!Arthur at all, as 
far as I'm concerned.  Besides, I think JKR has made it entirely too 
clear that Arthur LIKES muggles, which would not stand him in good 
stead with Voldemort, nor with the majority of his principal 
supporters.

Richard, who thinks it is fun to speculate, but thinks some theories 
can be a little TOO "fun."