The Secret Revealed! ESE!Arthur
olivierfouquet2000
olivier.fouquet+harry at m4x.org
Thu Jan 26 09:45:45 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 147067
> We're talking about the toxic effects of venom from a snake bite,
> not the blood loss and tissue damage from the bite of a grizzly bear
> or some other large, toothsome and beclawed predator. Where some
> creatures would be able to kill due to the severity of the wounds
> they can inflict on an victim that is hors de combat, snake venom
> takes time, with different venoms taking differing times according
> to quantity, type and location of injection. Also, snakes don't
> have an infinite supply of venom. A few bites, and it will take
> some time to replenish a supply that we are also informed Voldemort
> is dependent upon for his survival. So, I think asserting, "One
> more bite and he was gone," stretches the facts more than a bit.
Olivier
You are right if we are talking about real snakes. However, magical snakes, well, we have
Harry's word (and he should know, he was the snake): "Is Arthur seriously
injured?' 'Yes,' said Harry emphatically - why were they all so slow on the uptake, did
they not realise how much a person bled when fangs that long pierced their side?", "he
reared high from the floor and struck once, twice, three times, plunging his fangs deeply
into the man's flesh, feeling his ribs splinter beneath his jaws, feeling the warm gush of
blood" "blood was splattering on to the floor"etc.
So , the giant snake which attacked Arthur could have killed Arthur without any poison. In
fact, canon is crystal-clear, Harry worries about "his" fangs being poisonous much later:
it's the severity of the injury that panicks him and the blood-loss that panicks him.
> As for my reading of Ron's reaction, and Harry's behavior, I see it
> more as Harry working through the "facts," and slowly coming to
> conclusions about what must be done, and Ron simply being the
> frequently clueless git he tends to be.
>
> So, these two points don't seem to support and ESE!Arthur at all, as
> far as I'm concerned. Besides, I think JKR has made it entirely too
> clear that Arthur LIKES muggles, which would not stand him in good
> stead with Voldemort, nor with the majority of his principal
> supporters.
>
> Richard, who thinks it is fun to speculate, but thinks some theories
> can be a little TOO "fun."
>
Just so you know, Richard, I don't believe a word of ESE!Arthur, ESE! Arthur is just an
exercise in style to show that one can take any HP character and build a convincing case
that he's ESE by selecting somewhat improbable events and forgetting about anything that
goes against the theory. In fact, I'm even a bit surprised that anyone could tkink that I was
writing seriously (likewise, it took me a long long time and her repeated confirmations to
believe that Pippin was actually seriously in defending ESE!Lupin).
Olivier
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