The Secret Revealed! ESE!Arthur

Ceridwen ceridwennight at hotmail.com
Thu Jan 26 11:23:47 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 147070

> Richard, who thinks it is fun to speculate, but thinks some 
theories 
> can be a little TOO "fun."

Ceridwen:
Speculating about various and sundry ESE!Weasleys is more than a fun 
speculation.  It's about as impossible as anything can get in the 
Potterverse.  The whole thing is just fun, from start to finish.  Add 
your own favorite ESE!Weasley to the mix.

Richard
> So, these two points don't seem to support and ESE!Arthur at all, 
as 
> far as I'm concerned.  Besides, I think JKR has made it entirely 
too 
> clear that Arthur LIKES muggles, which would not stand him in good 
> stead with Voldemort, nor with the majority of his principal 
> supporters.

Ceridwen:
Going off on the ESE!Weasley again, which remember is *all* in good 
fun, so Arthur likes Muggles.  He would love to have one as a pet, 
I'm sure.  It could sit on the hearth, and wouldn't it be funny to 
watch it scurry about when someone floos or floos in?

Arthur's liking for Muggles is about the same as an advanced person's 
liking for a backward culture.  He's interested, he feels some 
sympathy, but he isn't really all that interested in getting to 
actually know the culture, just in picking up 'artifacts'.  It's a 
more liberal form of rigging toilets to explode.  He doesn't hurt the 
things, but to him, they're just a curiosity.  He's like a Colonizer 
who is looking fondly at the native population as cute, interesting 
*children* who need him or others like him if they're ever going to 
get out of their backward ways.  It's an innocent sort of arrogance.  
Like the way I like my dog, but I certainly wouldn't think he could 
vote, or take care of himself if I had to be away from home.  And, 
all dogs are like that, aren't they?  All dogs, all Muggles...

So, just because Arthur likes Muggles that doesn't mean he thinks 
they're anywhere near equal with Wizards and Witches.

And, because no one seemed to notice it, I think this is a family 
cabal.  Molly with her own ESE! ways and reasonings, Arthur with his, 
and the kids getting themselves in good with Harry, too, just waiting 
to strike.

Olivier
> > Right, let's go back to what happened. LV possessed a snake and 
> attacked a sleeping 
> > Arthur. He wounded him badly, and Arthur would have died if he 
> hadn't been discovered. 
> > Now think about it: why didn't LV kill Arthur once and for all? 
> Arthur was unconscious, 
> > defenseless. One more bite and he was gone. The ESE!Arthur theory 
> simply states that 
> > Arthur and LV deliberately engineered this attack. Arthur was 
> going to be hurt badly 
> > enough so that Harry would be absolutely convinced his visions 
> were important and 
> > necessary. You'll notice that it's when Harry mentions this event 
> that Ron is convinced that 
> > Sirius is trapped in the Ministry, and the change of allegiance 
of 
> Ron is what finally 
> > switches the balance. 

Ceridwen:
Olivier, good points!  And we've seen how little concern is made over 
even very serious accidents in the WW.  So Arthur taking on the role 
of victim really didn't think he had anything to worry about.  A few 
spells from a healer, and Bilius is your uncle.  Unfortunately for 
ESE!Arthur, Nagini is a magical snake.  Maybe LV misjudged the 
damage.  Or maybe it was necessary in order to get Harry worried.  If 
LV knew Harry was there, he may have been able to judge his 
reactions.  We do know from canon that LV doesn't think of the 
comfort or safety of his followers, unless their safety can benefit 
him (as when the Longbottom Four were broken out of Azkaban).  But 
when their damage is to LV's benefit, he's more than ready to see it 
happen.

And, Ron.  Very good catch!  Ron's in an interesting place in the 
books.  We know he's the chess strategist in the trio, yet he plays 
the dummy so well!  We tend to forget that he's the Strategist, 
unless we want to make an avatar saying 'The Brains/The Strategy/The 
Brawn' or whatever it is (Hermione, Ron, Harry).  We just see him as 
being 'clueless as always'.  But, getting Harry to go OTT enough to 
remember Arthur's 'plight' so he could add his voice without sounding 
suspicious, was a major move.

Disclaimer: ESE!Weasleys is not a serious suggestion, but it is fun.

Ceridwen.







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