Plan for events on the Tower (was Re: Do any list members think Dumbledore might
Ceridwen
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Sat Jan 28 14:16:40 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 147176
bboyminn:
> Then Dumbledore planned for McGonagall to send Flitwick to fetch
> Snape, he planned for Snape to disable Flitwick. Then he planned for
> Snape to rush to the top of the tower to kill him.
*(snip)*
> Again, I can see general contingency plans, I can see a setting of
> priorities, but I simply can not see Dumbledore conspiring to that
> end.
Ceridwen:
I do think there was a plan, but as you did, I tried to see how it
would work. I didn't go back nearly as far as Montague. I thought
it would have come about as a result of the DADA curse causing Snape
to get brain-dead and take the UV so a lot of the so-called plan
would have been, 'Then Draco does something, you keep an eye on him
and tell me what he did...'
What spoiled that scenario, where they actually need a lot of
information to be filled in, was the way Dumbledore acted when Harry
tried to tell him things about Draco. Dumbledore was more than cool,
he was cold or outright off-putting. So he had to know something
about what Draco was doing, because the other explanation, that he
was as tired as Ron and Hermione of Harry always blaming Draco or
Snape for what turns out to be no reason, just doesn't sound like
Dumbledore.
So, I too vote for a contingency plan, if you could call it a plan.
I think they're trying to keep Harry out of it for once.
Your quote above about Flitwick would fit perfectly well if Snape had
been expecting *Harry* to arrive instead of Flitwick that night. He
has been watching Draco, and reporting his movements to DD. Though
neither he nor DD seem to know that Draco was getting DEs into
Hogwarts, they do know he is planning on killing Dumbledore. So, DD
takes Harry out of the castle, knowing he will need Snape when he
returns - perfect excuse to send Harry to the dungeons and keep him
out of the rest of Hogwarts while this is going on. Snape would, by
agreement, stun Harry and rush off to either get Draco after the
deed, or do it himself (which, for DDM!Snape who is going along with
DD's plan, is a hateful thing, see his expression on the tower).
The contingency was loose. Any detail, like Snape stunning Harry,
was last-minute and tailored to the situation they believed would
come about in a few hours. Dumbledore set it up well enough by
insisting over and over that he needs Snape and not Madam Pomphrey.
He even says once that Harry should 'wake' Snape.
That would be the most detailed part of this emergency plot (hardly a
plan!). Snape supposedly is sleeping, Harry wakes him, he 'reacts'
by stunning Harry, and this is what Harry tells everyone afterwards.
There are just some people that you don't wake suddenly: you get a
punch in the jaw. By this scenario, Harry would not see Snape kill
Dumbledore if that became necessary. Everyone would think it was
Draco, or just not know what happened. Harry, by common agreement,
would be kept out of it and Snape would tell LV that Draco did indeed
successfully carry out LV's orders even if he did the killing,
keeping Draco and his parents alive.
In this scenario, the plan, such as it was, fell apart rapidly
because of information they did not have: part of Draco's task was to
get DEs into Hogwarts. This information from Rosmerta spurs DD
onward from Hogsmeade, though at this point he is still expecting to
be able to send Harry for Snape. He lands on the Astronomy Tower,
the farthest point from the dungeons, making Harry's trip to get
Snape much longer. Then another thing happens, Draco gets to the
tower sooner than expected and Dumbledore has to freeze Harry in
place, again, to keep him out of it. This also keeps Harry from
taking part in the fight against the DEs. (Maybe there's a part of
LV's plan we don't know? I'm still going over this whole scenario)
Meanwhile, MM sends Flitwick to rouse Snape, not knowing that the
first person there will be stunned. Dumbledore kept her in the dark
as well - honest reactions play better than faked ones, and she will
have to be seen as truly shocked and grieving.
Snape stuns *Flitwick*, not Harry, and realizes something's gone
horribly wrong. He goes to the tower and if any Legilimency occurs,
it is either DD telling Snape that Harry is there, but to go ahead
and do it anyway; or, it is DD telling Snape that he ingested the
poison and the plan otherwise has failed. If no Legilimency took
place, Snape is smart enough to see the two brooms and knows that
Harry was with DD and was not in the dungeons nor fighting with the
Order. 2+2=4 and Harry will be the sole non-DE witness.
I think Dumbledore is the sort of person to make lemonade when life
deals him lemons. The rest of the contingency, that of Snape killing
Dumbledore, goes off. Dumbledore is satisfied, hence the expression
on his corpse's face. If there is another part of the plan, we don't
know about it. This includes the still-fresh blood coming from DD's
mouth, speculation that he isn't really dead, the phoenix rising from
the funeral pyre, and Snape's odd reactions when Harry chases him.
So, that's my current take on what happened. They didn't know much,
so they had two guidelines: Keep Harry out of it this year; Stop
Draco from committing murder. They had a goal or goals aside from
that, the obvious one would be to keep Snape in with the DEs. Beyond
that, they were playing by ear and hoping that Draco would break down
and give some useful information to Snape.
The plan that night without complications: Dumbledore takes Harry to
the cave where he ingests a Dark potion. He impresses Harry with the
fact that only Snape can help. They return to Hogwarts, where Harry
goes to the dungeons, wakes Snape and is stunned. Draco gets his
chance to approach DD (maybe Harry following him was cramping his jr.
DE style?), and Snape shows up to help. Dumbledore is found dead,
ideally no one will know who did it. Snape will be the one to 'find'
the body after he realizes he has stunned Harry, who was with
Dumbledore earlier on. Draco and Snape are both covered, not only
with the Order and the Ministry's DMLE, but with LV as well.
It would only be a one-night plan, not something that has been
brewing all year. It would attempt to take into account the info
they have, that Draco is supposed to kill DD. It would also try to
cover the two guidelines of keeping Harry out of it and stopping
Draco from murdering. Not bad for the spur of the moment, but not
very good at all given the lack of info and no planning for 'what-
ifs' like DEs showing up or Draco arriving at the tower, or wherever,
a bit too early.
Ceridwen, who hates it when not-so-well-laid plans 'gang awry'.
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