The Ancient and Most Noble House of Black/Time Turners was: Hermione Dead

[lucianam73]

No: HPFGUIDX 147287

> mrsewp wrote:
>
> 
> Not only is a Longbottom on the Black Family Tree but a Charlus 
> Potter... is this the true reason why Harry was so easily able to 
> inherit #12 Grimmauld Place? Sirius, though clever, might not have 
> been able to get past his father's spellwork.  

lucianam:


'Black family tradition decreed that the house was handed down the
direct line, to the next male with the name of Black.'

As far as I understand, `direct line' in this context here means `from
Black son to Black son'. On the opposite, when a Black daughter is
born, the direct line is cut. That means Harry cannot be a Black heir:
Dorea Black is daughter to one of Phineas Nigellus's sons (we don't
know his name), therefore the line was `cut' when she was born. Her
children will be Potters, not Blacks, and certainly won't be
considered heirs.

Neville's and Draco's family tree situations are similar, both having
Black blood (not Black inheritance line!) from their mothers' sides.
Of course, Draco's mother being a Black herself, he could claim to be
`closer' to the inheritnce line, but still not having a right to it,
according to Black family tradition.

Bellatrix is the eldest sister, allright, but she's still a female and
therefore not an heir according to the `direct line' rule, which
required a male child. The only `advantage' she has over Draco, for
example, is that she is a Black, an even that is questionable since
she's married and her name is Lestrange since.

Since there is not a rightful heir anymore, I think Dumbledore was
quite right to trust Sirius's will, aka the last heir's will.  I can't
see how  this family tree drawing could change anything in terms of
who inherits 12 Grimmauld Place
 

I'll stick to the `Who's the other Metamorphamagus?' question. I used
to think it could be Ginny or Narcissa, but now it can even be Harry
or Neville, as well.

Oh and does anybody remember if Harry gave Kreacher any orders before
HBP? I don't think he has.

Lucianam

lucianam73 wrote:
> > I think there are hints. We are informed all Time-Turners have been
> > destroyed,
>
> Bart:
(snipped)
> I'm tired of hearing this. We know nothing of the kind. What we know
> are all the Time-Turners belonging to the British Ministry of Magic
> have been destroyed.


> Allie:
> We don't even know that. We know that the Daily Prophet - which is
> subject to biased journalism and political censorship - reported that
> the British MoM Time-Turners were destroyed.

lucianam:

Thanks for canon-correcting me.
The point is, whether there are Time-Turners left or not, the general
idea_ which may prove false in Book 7 as you have pointed out_ is that
they have been destroyed. And that makes the reader think, `Oh Dear,
well no more Time-Travelling in Book 7 then!'. And of course that is
the purpose of mentioning Time-Turners being destroyed (IMHO), to get
the reader off his guard and then throw a good two chapters of Time
Travelling in the next book!

As I said I'm putting my bets on Ron's watch anyway. And I'd also put
good money on its being the exact same watch Dumbledore had in the
first chapter of Harry Potter and the PS/SS, only before he died
Dumbledore's already set it. That's why it looks a bit different now,
where the symbols are concerned.

Lucianam