Who cast the Dark Mark was Re: ESE!Lupin condensed
lucianam73
lucianam73 at yahoo.com.br
Mon Jan 30 16:10:10 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 147301
> Pippin wrote:
> Lupin told Sirius that a record of the prophecy was stored in the
> DoM, mistakenly believing that Dumbledore would share this information
> with Harry. Lupin put Podmore under the Imperius curse and made him
> try to break into the DoM.
>
> When Sirius revealed that he thought Harry knew about the prophecy,
> Lupin had no choice but to kill him. Lupin "ran" Draco in HBP, put
> Tonks under the Imperius curse to use as a messenger, and arranged for
> Fenrir and another Death Eater to escape from the castle.
>
lucianam:
I've been reading a lot of ESE!Lupin threads, but there might be some
points I've missed. I wouldn't want to come up with something like
it's a new thing when it's probably been discussed many times before,
so Iapologize if this Dark Mark question has been covered in previous
ESE!Lupin threads.
Do any list members think Lupin might have set off the Dark Mark? Or
even, does anybody think the identity of the person who cast the Death
Mark over Hogwarts castle might be important at all?
I never gave it much thought, I just assumed one of the Death Eaters
who entered the castle did it, and why should that be important? It's
not something Draco mentions when he's talking to Dumbledore in the
Astronomy Tower. Dumbledore doesn't ask, either.
In fact, nobody is curious about it, nobody asks, 'When exactly did
this person cast the DM? Who cast it?' until Lupin brings up the subject.
Lupin says the Order were fighting the Death Eaters and 'One of them,
Gibbon, broke away and headed up the Tower stairs_'
Only then Harry asks, 'To set off the Mark?'
'He must have done, yes, they must have arranged that before they left
the Room of Requirement,' said Lupin. 'But I don't think Gibbon liked
the idea of waiting up there alone for Dumbledore, because he came
running back downstairs to rejoin the fight and was hit by a Killing
Curse that just missed me.'
I find it funny that the only one person is able to identify the
caster of the
Mark AND said caster is dead. I have no reason to suspect Lupin is
lying, other than the ESE!Lupin theory, but it is funny that we only
have Lupin's word on this.
There is also Tonks's remark: 'We were in trouble, we were losing.
Gibbon was down...'
Of course that does not validate Lupin's suggestion (very smart of him
to suggest and not affirm, I might add) , but it does validates the id
of the dead Death Eater as Gibbon, thus reinforcing the idea that what
Lupin said was true. You know, if you tell a false story, but show
part of it as true, people will more easily believe your whole
fabrication is perfectly correct.
In my opinion, Tonks is very likely under Amortentia, so whatever she
says that looks good for Lupin cannot be trusted.
Well, the ESE!Lupin threads I found don't seem to cover HBP (or OotP,
it seems) much, or maybe it's my fault that I only find the ones that
deal with the Prank, Shrieking Shack or Wormtail in greater detail. So
I wonder if anybody could link me to threads discussing ESE!Lupin and
Ootp, specially the DoM and Sirius's death, and ESE!Lupin in HBP. I'll
really appreciate it.
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