Being Good and Evil ( Draco and a bit of Ron)/Harry as DD man

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 154715

Alla wrote:
> <snip>
> I love Twins to death, but even if one does not, IMO ( I understand
you disagree, but that is how I feel) that first they are supposed to
be funny and second they turned on on BAD guys only.
> 
> To me Dursleys are bad guys, whether they are Muggles or not does 
> not matter.
> 
> Twins to me are the tools of carmical justice. Are they sometimes 
> over the top?
> 
> Yes, sure, but I find it hysterical. I think that JKR is not 
> intending her bad guys to get away , so she cannot call social 
> services on Dursleys, instead we get Twins and later Dumbledore.

> 
> I just think that JKR's books are not the once where author is shy 
> of giving out moral judgments sometimes. IMO of course.
> 
> But JKR did not show us anything of the kind and that is why I think 
> that Muggles who were baited by DE are innocent people, who did NOT 
> deserve what was done to them and Dursleys deserved everything they 
> got and more.
> 
Carol responds:
But just as in the case of Hagrid giving Dudley a pig's tail, it's
Dudley whom the Twins (knowing that Dudley is on a starvation diet)
tempt with potion-laden toffees and Dudley who is tormented by having
his tongue not only swollen and lengthened grotesquely but having it
pulled on by his mother, who thinks she's rescuing him from
strangulation. For observers, this scene might be darkly comic, but
for Dudley it's agonizing. (I'd guess that this moment is Dudley's
worst memory and the one he relives when the Dementor descends on him.)

Dudley is a bully, but he can't be a child abuser, being a child
himself. And even though he's being punished by bullying, the "sin"
that's being punished here, and with the pig's tail, is gluttony. When
were the Twins or Hagrid appointed as Dudley's keepers, and what right
have they to punish him even if they have the right to judge him? And
how is it right or fair for so-called Karmic justice to fall on
Dudley, who is himself, according to Dumbledore, a victim of the adult
Dursleys' (in this case unintentional) abuse?

I wouldn't even want to see Vernon Dursley degraded and abused in this
way, harsh as he often is to Harry. But at least, if that were the
case, the right person would be receiving the punishment. In this
instance, as with Hagrid, the sins of the father are being visited on
the son.

Carol, who hopes that the Twins don't receive Karmic retribution for
all the suffering they've inflicted on other people, from Montague to
innocent firsties