Evil Hermione

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 154923

  
> > Julie:
> > What horrible consequences? As Hermione said, they might  have
> > been expelled. I don't see that as "horrible."
> >
> Alla:
> 
> See Hagrid's situation for horrible consequences of being expelled 
> in WW, that is only if the kids would not have ended up in front of 
> Wizengamot and In Azkaban, then expulsion would have been the least 
> of their worries, but expulsion alone would have been enough to ruin 
> **all** their futures thanks to dear Marietta.

Pippin:
Umbridge would hardly have expelled twenty students. That would have
made her look bad. She might have expelled Harry, but if Harry is insanely
plotting against the Ministry and endangering other students, then he 
should be in treatment, shouldn't he? 

It all rests on Dumbledore's reputation why anyone would believe Harry
and not think that his stories are as wild as Luna Lovegood's. But as
you yourself are fond of pointing out, Dumbledore has made some
huge mistakes. You've often said how foolish it would be to blindly
follow Dumbledore. Looks like Marietta took your advice :)

Alla:

> Why shouldn't we trust Umbridge words that Marietta did come to 
> her on her own? Because **we** think that Marietta is not that bad?
> 
> Well, dear Dolores said she did come voluntarily, I am going to 
> believe her. :)
> 
> Otherwise some other statements of hers also need to be taken with 
> big gran of salt, no?

Pippin:
Umbridge would tell the truth to Harry about siccing the dementors on 
him because there is no one who is going to believe him if he accuses
her. Confessing in front of Fudge that she brutalized a student is another
matter. I do believe that Marietta went to Umbridge voluntarily, but
really, if she did it because she wanted to be in Umbridge's good graces,
and didn't care what happened to her friends, why didn't she keep 
talking once the hex went into effect? The damage was done. 

The only information Marietta volunteered, according to Umbridge,  was 
that it would be to Umbridge's advantage to check out the Room of 
Requirement. Mention of a meeting was only obtained after Umbridge
"questioned her a little further."  I doubt that was accomplished with
cookies and tea, but at that point the jinx went into effect and Marietta
clammed up.  Every thing else Umbridge found out, including the
purpose of the meetings and who was there, she learned through 
Hermione's carelessness, not Marietta's treachery.

Pippin