[HPforGrownups] RE Priori Incantatem and the misplaced spell

James Sharman jamess at climaxgroup.com
Thu Jul 13 09:38:19 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 155318

The first editions of the book had James coming out of the wand before
Lilly, obviously this resulted in a lot of speculation that what we were
told about the event at godrics hollow was suspect (Primarily that Lilly
died before James, not the other way around as we have always been told). In
the end JKR explained that this had been an error and later prints had been
corrected.

 

You can take from this, one of two things:

 

1) That we shouldn't try and pull too much information from the Priori
Incantatem spell in this case.

2) The version we now have has presumably been checked repeatedly, and any
anomaly is presumably intentional.

 

It's possible that the absence of any shadow of the failed AK could be
critical, but it's more likely to be nothing at all. If you PI'd a first
year students wand would you get hundreds of failed spells from their
learning?  The PI of a crucio produces a scream, a conjured item produces a
ghost of the item and an AK produces a ghost of the dead person. But what
does a failed spell do? The PI shadow related directly to the effects of the
spell, the effect of that AK was no dead person, so the PI produced a shadow
of nothing.

 

One other option:  (please take as slightly tongue in cheek) *grin*  

 

A friend and I in a semi inebriated state came up with the following idea.
The ghost of Lilly told Harrry that his father was coming soon, this implies
that the ghosts had some level of communication with each other before
coming out of the wand (This is the important bit). The person who did
anything close to dying from the failed AK was Voldemort himself, and his
"ghost" was due to make an appearance at the appropriate time. My friend and
I took great amusement in the idea that the ghost of Voldemorts destroyed
body was unable to make an appearance because the ghosts of James and Lilly
(and the others) gave it a damn good kicking in the PI waiting room.

 

 

 

  

 

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Subject: [HPforGrownups] RE Priori Incantatem and the misplaced spell

 

Bridge13219:
>> I remember in that scene LV wand was producing/echoing screams
as well as the shadows of the people he killed. Maybe one of those
screams was him when the AK rebounded on himself (in addition to all
the Crusios he had done). <<

katssirius:
In response to the suggestion that it is hidden in other screams, 
unfortunately there is only a long pause between Bertha' echo and 
Lily's echo. Even if Voldemort was disembodied (as Geoff suggested) 
the spell is not there. Other less significant pieces of magic show 
up like Crucios in the form of their results. So whatever happened 
to Voldy should have come out of that wand unless it was not used. 
Did JKR just forget to include it or is the absence significant? 
Explanations anyone?

 



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