Harry's Soul with Harry as horcrux

[Mike]

No: HPFGUIDX 155436

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214"  wrote:
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> That is Rebecca's reference to Dumbledore's remark that Harry's
> soul is "untarnished and whole".
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> Do you think Dumbledore is lying here? Do you think he does not know?
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> Do you think that Harry's soul somehow could be "untarnished and
> whole" with the piece of Voldy sould attached to it? ( I confess I
> find this interpretation to be highly unlikely)


Mike responds:

Alla, I think you're assuming that Voldy's soul piece is attaching
to Harry's soul. Seeing as most Horcruxes are not assigned to other
living things, there is no requirement for another soul to attach
Voldy's soul piece to. In fact the accidental Horcrux theory
postulates that Voldy had intended to assign that soul piece to an
inanimate object. It was never intended to possess another's soul like
the diary Horcrux. We don't know how Voldy managed this bit of magic
with the diary Horcrux, but DD does say Riddle was probably the most
brilliant student to attend Hogwarts. In any case, Voldy's soul was
not intended to and probably isn't attached to Harry's soul. This may
be due to Lily's protection or it may show that Harry is inately more
powerful than Voldemort in the mystic realm of Love and Souls.

As far as Dumbledore is concerned, I rather think he knew but didn't
know how to present this possibility to Harry. His whole hint about
Nagini possibly being a Horcrux was to get Harry to realize that a
Horcrux could be enterred into another living being, as well as
becoming a Red Herring to the readers. JKR never gives us clues with
only one purpose in mind, does she? See, I fall into the camp of
people who believe that although DD is brilliant magically, very wise
analytically, very learned scholastically-speaking (150+ years helps a
lot in this area), but DD is not a brilliant tactician and has that
frustratingly annoying habit of holding onto secrets way, waaay too
long.

For instance, why doesn't he shout it from the rooftops that Voldemort
is really Tom Riddle, a half-blood wizard? But NO, he even confides in
Harry that few people know this. Why? Wouldn't it hurt his recruiting
at least some if the whole WW knew this fact, at least it could have
prevented a few of the more fervent pure-blood fanatics from taking up
his mantle. Another case: he never told Harry how to destroy a
Horcrux, despite the fact that he promised to expand on the Ring
Horcrux story. Is this not an important piece of knowledge? Does this
only pose a problem to us, the readers, and Harry doesn't need any
more knowledge in this area? I can't say, but it is another case where
DD leaves at least us hanging when it seems this is critical knowledge
to pass on.

So why wouldn't DD tell Harry if he knew or suspected Harry is a
Horcrux? Is he afraid Harry would immediately assume that he must
sacrifice himself, as you Alla have suggested, without considering
other possibilities? Does DD think that Nagini is too valuable of an
ally for LV, and hopes that Harry will make an effort to terminate
that friendship? Or is it simply DD's maddening habit of not telling
us and Harry the whole story? I'm sure others have many more
ideas/possibilities.

Or is there some secret hidden behind that door in the DoM which
doesn't require Harry to perform some invasive spell to eliminate
Horcruxes. Maybe what is behind the door would allow Harry to vanquish
Voldemort without even dealing with the Horcruxes. Could Harry learn
how to project Love in a spell/charm and was this the spell or a form
of the spell that DD threw at LV in the MoM. LV would certainly
realise this kind of spell wouldn't kill him, but he still doesn't
want to be hit by it. This is all wild speculation on my part.

Alla, does any of this help?

Mike, who even after all this is not 100% convinced that Harry is a
Horcrux.