Traitors and Deserters (was:Re: muggle baiting vs. muggle torture)

[steven1965aaa]

No: HPFGUIDX 155608

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "horridporrid03" 
<horridporrid03 at ...> wrote:
>
> > Betsy Hp:
> Hang on, are you saying the war was over because the DA had lost?  
> First of all that would suggest that the war was against Umbridge 
> and not Voldemort, and second it would suggest that in stirring up 
> the chaos that got them in trouble in the first place, the twins 
> were wasting everybody's time.

Steven1965aaa:
No, I am not one of the "war" people, I agree with you on that.  I 
was just making that point hypothetically, saying even if you would 
view it as a "war" against Umbridge, which I thought other people 
had suggested earlier, then ...

>  Betsy Hp:
> The problem I have with Hermione at this moment is that I cannot 
> say "Oh, Hermione would never..." I honestly can't think, now, of 
> anything Hermione wouldn't do if it achieved her ends.  Honestly, 
I think Hermione is the one member of the trio who'd have the least 
> problem with killing, as long as she thought it the best solution 
to  the problem in front of her.  Hermione's the Tin Man of the 
group, and if she doesn't get a heart, I think they'll be in 
trouble. 

Steven1965aaa now:
I didn't say "never".  I just don't think Hermione or Harry would 
have had a problem with someone quitting the DA, as long as they 
didn't squeal, and therefore Hermione would have felt no need 
to "punish" a quitter or deter further quitters by branding 
someone "quitter".

I agree that I certainly wouldn't want to get on Hermione's bad 
side!  But (wanting to see the good) I chalk Rita Skeeter and 
Marietta up to Hermione's fierce desire to protect Harry.

By the way, didn't it tun out that Tin Man had a heart all along?