Traitors and Deserters (was:Re: muggle baiting vs. muggle torture)

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> >>Betsy Hp:
> > But in that case, leaving a girl disfigured for such a great    
> > length of time for just being a snitch is a rather cruel form of 
> > vengence, IMO.  And Hermione needs to realize that.  She should 
> > be above such vicious acts of cruelty, IMO.

> >>Gerry:
> That is if you believe Marietta made a mistake.
> <snip>

Betsy Hp:
Erm, no, actually, my dislike of Hermione's actions has nothing 
whatsoever to do with Marietta.  That's why it frustrates me when 
the conversation is contantly turned to what Marietta did.

Frankly, I dislike disfigurment as a punishment.  And it's hard for 
me to continue to think of a character as basically good when they 
are able to do such a thing without a second thought.  For me it's 
all about *Hermione's* actions.

> >>Gerry:
> I don't think she made a mistake, she wanted to ingratiate herself
> with Umbridge. She knew the decree, she knew how Trelawny - a     
> teacher - was treated by Umbridge. She knew everybody or at least 
> somebody could be expelled and she knew what expulsion means:     
> being forbidden to use magic. Knowing all that and still going to 
> Umbridge is vicious, cruel and vile. 

Betsy Hp:
Okay, so how does that make Hermione being vicious, cruel and vile 
in return a *good* thing?

Betsy Hp