Traitors and Deserters (was:Re: muggle baiting vs. muggle torture)

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--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "horridporrid03"
<horridporrid03 at ...> wrote:


> But in that case, leaving a girl disfigured for such a great length 
> of time for just being a snitch is a rather cruel form of vengence, 
> IMO.  And Hermione needs to realize that.  She should be above such 
> vicious acts of cruelty, IMO.

That is if you believe Marietta made a mistake. Marietta never said
she did. Cho said so. Marietta does nothing, keeps her mouth shut and
never even approaches Harry again. 

I don't think she made a mistake, she wanted to ingratiate herself
with Umbridge. She knew the decree, she knew how Trelawny - a teacher
- was treated by Umbridge. She knew everybody or at least somebody
could be expelled and she knew what expulsion means: being forbidden
to use magic. Knowing all that and still going to Umbridge is vicious,
cruel and vile. 


> Betsy Hp:
> I pulled this comment from another thread, but this is exactly what 
> I see happening in the Hermione/Marietta discussions.  I say what 
> Hermione did was horribly underhanded and cruel and I get 
> told, "Well, Marietta deserved it!"  (Which always makes me wonder 
> if teachers are out there with purple markers writing "Snitch" on 
> the faces of children who tell tales, since disfigurment is such a 
> popular disciplinary tool all of a sudden. <g>)

Gerry
This is not about telling tales. This is about wilfully bringing
others including the person who is your best friend in danger. Yes
Hermionde made the hex. Yes it was not particularly nice. And I don't
think it comes even close to what Marietta did. 
> 
> Yes, Marietta snitched on the other students. 
> woman's skirt was really short, or yes, your girlfriend did burn 
> your dinner.  But that's not what I'm talking about.  I'm talking 
> about the over-the-top punishment being handed out.
> 
I think that is the big difference: What Marietta did cannot be
compared to normal tale-telling. Because the consequences - which
Marietta knows - are so much bigger. It is not telling tales it is
betrayal. 


> The person I'm concerned about is Hermione.  I think she's heading 
> in a bad direction and needs to be checked.
> 
I don't think so at all. 

Gerry