Significance of missing line (was: HBP paperback)/Barty Jr's motivations

zanooda2 zanooda2 at yahoo.com
Thu Jul 27 23:02:17 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 156103

> Alla wrote:

><SNIP>:

> I was talking to somebody off list about "He cannot kill you if you 
> are already dead" that is in American edition, but as we know it is 
> not in the British one.

>> Siriusly Snapey Susan:

>>I think you're right, then, Alla, that this means JKR would have 
>>preferred that the first US edition didn't contain the line.
 
>>(How 'bout others from around the world whose HBPs are in languages 
>>other than English? Is the line in there or not?)


zanooda:


I have at home Russian and Spanish translations, but Spanish is still
packed somewhere, because we've just moved. I was able to find Russian
though, and this sentence is not there. 

I've read HP books in translation only once (the Russian translations
are just so bad, I couldn't bring myself to suffer through another
reading), but I think they translate from the British version. First
of all, it's logical to translate a text directly from the source, and
second of all, there are some things in translations that definitely
come from Bloomsbury edition, like Philosopher's Stone instead of
Sorcerer's, Sirius' vault number 711 instead of not mentioning the
number, etc. 

Also, in OotP Harry sees at St.Mungo's a witch with a satsuma jammed
up her nose, which they changed to "walnut" in Scholastic ed, but
Russian translator most definitely tried to translate "satsuma". I'm
saying "tried" because somehow he/she came up with "Japanese teacup",
but never mind, it's not the worst thing they did to these books. 

Anyway, back to your question, I can't be sure, but I think that all
the translations are made from the British ed., therefore there
shouldn't be "he cannot kill you
" in any of them.


> aussie wrote:

> Barty had UC stored in his wand that could have been hard to explain 
> otherwise.

> When his father turned up, Jr AK-ed Snr.
> Then he got Krum to follow his lead.

> But the MOM would be hard pressed to prove it with his wand being 
> used in DODA classes, and Spiders getting UCs.


zanooda:

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that Barty Jr. could disguise his
Cruciatus curses this way, but not AKs, because Priori Incantatem
would show the victims, like Cedric, Harry's parents, etc. So MoM
would see the spiders coming out of the wand, but also Crouch Sr. As
for the Imperius curse, I have no idea how Priori Incantatem shows it.














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