Whose side are we on?? :was: Arthur right or not?

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 156137

Lupinlore wrote:
> You might be on to something here.  I would agree that "vile" is a
> rather good word for it, or at the very least "ignoble."  I often
> really wonder why anyone -- meaning Harry -- really cares what
> happens to these ignoble morons.  Of course, Harry does have a
> personal stake in it.  Which gets us back to the revenge theme.

Carol responds:
I doubt that JKR wants us to think of Dumbledore, McGonagall, et al.
as "ignoble morons," but I won't attempt to convince you otherwise
because emotional judgments are impervious to logic. Instead, I'll
just ask a question: Do we have any canon evidence that the adults
know what Umbridge did to Harry in her detentions? Harry specifically
avoided going to either the headmaster or his HOH because he wanted to
deal with the matter himself (and because DD, for reasons unknown to
Harry, was refusing to meet Harry's eyes and Harry resented this
treatment). He didn't even tell Ron and Hermione what Umbridge was
doing until he had no choice.

Harry later holds up his scarred hand to Rufus Scrimgeour, who up to
that point seems to have no idea of the animosity between Harry and
Umbridge, but I doubt that Scrimgeour made the connection between
Harry's hand (fist) and Umbridge's detentions, especially since
Umbridge is mentioned several paragraphs before Harry raises his fist.
(I can cite canon here if need be.) Do we have any evidence that
Scrimgeour or anyone else (except HRH and Lee Jordan) knows about
Umbridge's evil quill? And if they don't know about it, how can they
take action against it?

Carol, curious as to what Lupinlore thinks the adults ought to have
done about Umbridge (and whatever else is prompting his dismissal of
the adult characters as "ignoble morons")