[HPforGrownups] Re: Hagrid (and Dumbledore)

[Kemper]

No: HPFGUIDX 153445

> Kemper earlier:
> > However, I do not think that Hagrid is in on DD's faked death.
> > Hagrid wears his emotions on his sleeve. He would not be able to
> > pull off faking grief for DD.
>
> Kelly responded:
> I thought about that too. But I just can't get over the fact that
> having moved DD's body (twice) he would not have been able to tell
> that DD was still alive, if in fact that was the case.

Kemper now:
I'm supposing a hypothetical given: Snape faked Dumbledore's death.
Other threads have suggested/supported this through canon, so I won't
go through it here.

Through Snape's wizardry, Dumbledore appears dead to Hagrid.  Hagrid
doesn't need to do anything to continue the faked death and isn't even
in on it.  Rather, Hagrid's responsible for the psuedo-(I hate to use
this word)-resurrection, and he isn't in on this either.  But he'll do
this by following whatever instructions Dumbledore has left him with
regards to the body or tomb.  Hagrid will follow the instructions, no
matter what they say including "tell no one what I'm asking of you",
because he loves Dumbledore with so much heart that to do otherwise
would be agonizing.

This love is the reason for Dumbledore telling McGonagall, "I would
trust Hagrid with my life."

McGonagall, who agrees that Hagrid's heart is in the right place,
challenges Dumbledore this trust, "... you can't pretend he's not
careless.  He does tend to..."  She is cut off from finishing her
don't-trust-Hagrid arguement by the sound of Sirius' motorcycle.

Dumbledore is aware of Hagrid's myopic foresightedness (telling a
stranger with a dragon's egg how to subdue a giant three-headed dog)
which would appear like carelessness to McGonagall.  Dumbledore trust
Hagrid with big things and simple instructions:  Get BabyHarry from
Godric's Hollow.  Bring him to Privet Drive where you will meet me.
You are the only one to take charge of Harry. ... Hand deliver Harry's
Letter of Acceptance.  Help him get his things.  Pick up the Stone
from Gringotts.  Bring the Stone to Hogwarts.

He performed all these duties effectively and with care.

So Hagrid doesn't need to know about a faked death.  Dumbledore trusts
him with his life.  And it is even more evident that he does because
if Hagrid doesn't follow the instructions, then Dumbledore will appear
dead and may even become so, for some time.



>
> Kemper earlier:
> > I believe that DD had a will drawn up that had Hagrid perform
> > certain duties with regards to his body and resting place.
>
> Kelly responded:
> If that were true then Hagrid would have known about it, and
> wouldn't he have said as much while everyone was in the headmaster's
> office? Was he so grief stricken that he forgot what his duties were?

Kemper now:
I don't think Hagrid received his instructions immediately.  I imagine
he received them when he returned to his cabin after meeting with the
other professors and the new Headmistress in her office.

Kemper