Baptism/Christianity in HP: was Looking for God in Harry Potter

[a_svirn]

No: HPFGUIDX 153551

> > a_svirn:
> > Why is it logical? Are you saying that Lilly's sacrifice is of 
the 
> > same kind than that of Christ? 
> 
> Leslie41:
> Yes, in a way.  In that we all have the opportunity to be Christ 
for 
> another person, and see Christ in others.  Jesus said that the way 
> his followers would be known as Christians was because of their 
love 
> for one another, and there was no greater good than someone die 
for 
> their friend.  

a_svirn:
This is not what Christ's sacrifice was about. It was about 
spiritual salvation of mankind, not about physical survival of a 
friend.

> Leslie41:
> The parental nature of god--as "god the father"--is also part of 
> God's triune nature.  

a_svirn:
It is, isn't it? And in Christian tradition we have Father 
sacrificing his beloved Son, whereas in the HP story Lilly 
sacrificed herself so that her son would live. I'd say there are 
more differences than similarities here. 
> 
> > A_svirn:
> > That would mean that either Lilly was somewhat presumptuous, or
> > that Christ made His ultimate sacrifice so that Harry would be 
> > able to kill Voldemort one of these days.
> 
> Leslie41:
> Well, I don't see how it follows that Lily was presumptuous. 

a_svirn: 
It follows if she saw herself as a second Christ or something. 

> Leslie41:
>But as 
> for Christ's "ultimate sacrifice," well if one is a Christian, one 
> believes that he made that sacrifice out of love.  And it is love 
as 
> well that will eventually allow Harry to defeat Voldemort. It's 
not 
> that Harry can kill Voldemort because of Christ's sacrifice, but 
> perhaps more that Christ's sacrifice and teachings in part provide 
a 
> kind of paradigm for Harry's behavior, whether known to Harry or 
not.

a_svirn:
I hope you are not saying that love is something only Christians are 
capable of.