[HPforGrownups] Moaning Myrtle's murder (Was: Harry a Horcrux?)

[rebecca]

No: HPFGUIDX 153588

>
>   KJ:
>    I like:       Grindlewald for the locket because he taught him how
> to
>                    make horcruxes
>
>                  Grandpa for the diary because he was only slightly
>                    significant and he needed to try it out
>
>                  Dad for the ring because he owed him one and there was
>                    contact with the Gaunt family
>
>                  Hepzibah for the cup because she was a descendant of
>                  Helga
>
>    I'm thinking  Dorcas Meadows for the Ravenclaw item because her name
>                   was tossed out there for a reason but we don't know
>                   why. We just know that he killed her himself.
>
>                  Harry was destined to be number 6 and would have been
>                   associated to the Gryffindor item.
>
>    Spares:       Brice, Grandma. Lilly, James, Amelia Bones, Quirrel,
>
Rebecca:

I'm of the mind that the deaths of some were significant not because of who 
these people were but what they had that he wanted. It's a sticky wicket I 
have in my mind that some of the people killed were killed only for 
possession of the object, and that later Voldemort decided a different 
personally important person to him should die for a Horcrux creation.  Since 
Grindlewald seems, from the Chocolate Frog cards anyway, to have been 
defeated by Dumbledore- methinks he's out of the equasion.  Myrtle died 
because of the Basilisk, not because Riddle turned his wand on her. 
Hepzibah died by Hokey's hand for Riddle to obtain the cup and the locket, 
so I don't think those ways of killing carries as much uhmph in the Horcrux 
making department. So in form, Horcrux creation could be beginning with the 
diary, which I think Tom Riddle has first before the ring? The diary would 
be a Muggle object tied to an important Muggle death to Voldemort - the 
death of Riddle, Sr in cold blood by his son, as well as the fact the diary 
contains what he prides himself as true ancestory with Slytherin.

We almost need a timeline of deaths to match this, as Voldemort might have 
acquired the "famous" objects and only started making them in earnest after 
leaving B&B's and experimenting.  I wonder if the Horcrux has to be created 
at the time when you actually cause directly kill a person yourself, or if 
it can be created much later - my bet is in JKR's world, that might be the 
case.

Rebecca