Baptism/Christianity in HP: was Looking for God in Harry Potter

a_svirn a_svirn at yahoo.com
Fri Jun 9 18:23:31 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 153607

> > a_svirn:
> > This is not what Christ's sacrifice was about. It was about 
> > spiritual salvation of mankind, not about physical survival of a 
> > friend.
> 
> Leslie41:
> From a Christian perspective, I would say that's rather short-
> sighted.  
>  

a_svirn:
What is?

>  
> > a_svirn:
> > It is, isn't it? And in Christian tradition we have Father 
> > sacrificing his beloved Son, whereas in the HP story Lilly 
> > sacrificed herself so that her son would live. I'd say there are 
> > more differences than similarities here. 
> 
> Leslie41:
> Yes, if you are hung up on the essentially "masculine" nature of 
> Christ.  Many people, including some of the most famous Christians 
> of all time, see Christ as both mother and father.  Julian of 
> Norwich, for one.  Christ's sacrifice transcends gender, is what 
I'm 
> saying.

a_svirn:
I'll take your word for it, but I wasn't talking about gender at 
all. I merely pointed out that in Christian tradition a parent 
sacrificed his child, whereas in Rowling's story a parent gave her 
life so that her child would live.

> > > Leslie41:
> > > Well, I don't see how it follows that Lily was presumptuous. 
> > 
> > a_svirn: 
> > It follows if she saw herself as a second Christ or something. 
> 
> Leslie:
> Wha?  I don't see how that follows at all.  

a_svirn:
You don't think that comparing the love you feel for your child and 
the lengths you are prepared to go in order to ensure his or her 
well-being to the love Christ has for all mankind is somewhat 
immodest? 








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