[HPforGrownups] A Trelawney Thought

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No: HPFGUIDX 153703

>KIM
>So in my exhaustive search for one tiny little spark of hope that  
Dumbledore 
may yet live... I submit that as he was not the first to rise  from the table 
that fateful Christmas dinner, he will not be the first of  the group to die. 

>Um... that means either Ron or Harry will be. Do  we really want to 
sacrifice 
either of them for Dumbledore? I think I need a  headache  draught.

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>Sherrie
>I'd  spotted this too, when I first read the book. My thought is that, as 
Ron  & Harry rose simultaneously - we're going to lose them both.

>I've  assumed Ron's death as a given, actually, since the chess game in 
PS/SS, and  Harry's since the beginning of the series. This little vignette 
indicates  that their sacrifices will happen together - if not at the same 
moment, 
at  least within the same brief time frame. Perhaps Ron, as in the chess 
game,  
will be the sacrifice that distracts the opposition just long enough for  
Harry to "check" Voldemort?

Nikkalmati:
I have been troubled by the thought for some time now that perhaps  
everything Trelawney says is intended to come true in one way or another and  that we 
are being led to dismiss her utterances (except for the few  that are 
accompanied by a trance).  JKH may be playing a trick on  us.  Wouldn't that be a 
surprise! <g>  If ST is correct,  then one of the boys will die, but not both.  I 
tend to agree that the  chess game is a hint that Ron will sacrifice himself 
for the cause in the  end.  Hermoine then will have to turn back and Harry will 
face LV alone,  but will not die. Hasn't JKR said that she has already written 
the death of  one of her characters in Book 7?
 
I am "a DD is alive" cult member at this point.  His association with  
Phoenixes and the Phoenix rising from the grave incline me to think in some way  or 
form he is still with us.  He may not be able to return to help Harry,  but 
his eventual return is assured.  The point to be made is that goodness  is never 
truly defeated, but will always be able to rise again.  Although  JKH has 
said "dead is dead",  that saying does not apply if DD isn't really  dead, does 
it? 
Nikkalmati 


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