Transferable Human Horcruxes was: SSlyth via DWG to DM
Hagrid
aussie_lol at yahoo.com.au
Mon Jun 12 13:57:08 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 153727
--- "Peggy Wilkins" <enlil65...> wrote: (snip)
> Peggy W: (cut and pasted from the end)
> I'm actually a little unclear on what you're proposing, though;
> isn't your propsal that it is Slytherin's soul that is being
> passed through Grindelwald to Voldemort, and will be passed on to
> someone else from Voldemort? ... In any case, interesting theory
> about Slytherin, but not one I'm inclined to believe (sorry).
>
AUSSIE reply to Peggy:
YES! My main suggestion is SALAZAR SLYTHERIN made a Horcrux with a
piece of his torn soul over 1000 years ago and it is still around
today.
I further propose that it has helped guide Dark Wizards through the
ages. This is done be passing Slytherin's torn piece of soul from
Dark Wizard to Dark Wizard - transferable human Horcruxes.
For a person's soul to have room to accept another's piece of a soul
comfortably, it should not be whole. So I see LV direction for young
Draco to tear his soul through AK-ing DD as more significant. It was
to create the next generation of Salazar Slytherin's host for his
Horcrux. LV wanted to pass SS's Horcrux into Draco once his soul is
torn.
Draco would have been about the same age Tom Riddle was when
Grindelwald passed Slytherin's Horcrux onto Tom.
> Peggy W:
> So you are positing that Slytherin could have more than one
Horcrux?
> This is contradicted, though, by Dumbledore's statement in HBP:
>
> HBP p. 500:
> "...As far as I know -- as far, I am sure, as Voldemort knew -- no
> wizard had ever done more than tear his soul in two." (snip)
>
> Also don't forget that when we see Diary Tom controlling the
> Basilisk in COS, that was a regeneration of Tom from his Horcrux;
> if Tom were a Horcrux for Slytherin, for your proposal to be true
> he would have also had to transfer a bit of Slytherin into his own
> Diary Horcrux. Isn't that stretching things a bit too thin?
AUSSIE reply to Peggy:
If the Basalisk were a second Horcrux of Slytherin's is not as
important. DD's "As far as I know..." statement may be true or a
decoy. Nonetheless, even discounting the Basalisk as a Horcrux, it
would not stop Slytherin having an active Horcrux around today.
I doubt a wizard that makes a Horcrux while carrying a Horcrux
within him splits the other person's soul any further. The Diary
need not hold any part of Slytherin's soul.
>
> aussie's excerpted chat:
> [snip]
> > aussie_lol: Grindelwald was about the time that Tom changed to
LV ...
> > horridporrid03: Yes, exactly. I think it's a sort of eternal
battle
> > aussie_lol: .... and the choc card said DD DEFEATED
Grindy .... not KILLED him
> > aussie_lol: ... what if LV is a Horcrux for Grindelwald ...
>
> Peggy W:
> Then Grindelwald wouldn't be dead, but JKR has said that he is
indeed dead:
>
> >>>http://www.quick-quote-quill.org/articles/2005/0705-
tlc_mugglenet-anelli-3.htm
> [Begin quote]
>
> ES: Our other "Ask Jo" question ... It's the one about
> Grindelwald, ... is he dead?
>
> JKR: Yeah, he is.
>
> [End quote]
>
> It is clear that Grindelwald can't have a Horcrux if he is dead.
AUSSIE reply to Peggy:
My mistake. You are right with Grindelwald. JKR is the best
authority on him being dead, so no Horcrux exists of Grindelwald.
I meant to say, "What if LV INHERITED a Horcrux from Grindelwald?" -
not Grindelwald's, but a Horcrux Grindelwald carried and that guided
him. Salazar Slytherin's Horcrux.
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