Horcrux: was Baptism/Christianity in HP

[leslie41]

No: HPFGUIDX 153768


> Magpie:
> But we've been through all this.  a_svirn isn't asking for a name 
> dictionary, but for you to explain why the names that also appear 
> in the Bible are significant because the Biblical character 
> somehow relates to or sheds light on the HP character.  

Leslie41:

Funny, I thought we'd been all through this already too!  But I'll 
try to make things clearer.  First, let's recap the names involved 
at Godric's Hollow.  I'm actually including more definitions than I 
did before, because as I keep thinking about it more keeps occurring 
to me.  Mugglenet offers a bunch of great definitions, upon which I 
am expanding.

Godric:  This name means "kingdom of god", or perhaps "good 
kingdom".  Mugglenet cites "ric" as meaning "power," but it can also 
mean "kingdom, nation, or diocese" (as can be found in words today 
like "bishopric").  Several interpretations of this word can be 
found, ranging from "power of good" to "God's kingdom", etc.  See 
Clark/Hall's Anglo-Saxon dictionary--it's online.

According to Mugglenet, Voldemort cannot be so quickly ascribed.  It 
means "flee from death," but it can also mean other things.  "Mort" 
seems to mean death, but it can also mean "evil".  Thus, "violent of 
death" or "violent of evil". 

Now, if the one "violent of evil" comes to "the kingdom of god", I 
start to think about how the story of Harry's salvation from 
Voldemort relates to the Bible.

That's ME.  Your mileage may vary. 

Lily:  Again, according to Mugglenet:  "A flower symbolizing purity 
and innocence. It is the flower commonly used during the Easter 
holiday and symbolizes immortality."  The Easter Holiday celebrates 
Christ's rising from the dead.  And his immortality.  And ours, if 
we are Christians.  

James: Again, according to Mugglenet, James means "usurper," but it 
also can be a reference to the apostle.  The apostle James was the 
apostle associated with good deeds as being the route to salvation.

So, again, what I'm seeing here is the one "violent of evil" coming 
to "the kingdom of god."  He is met by "good deeds" and the symbol 
associated with the risen Christ.  Christ who sacrificed himself for 
his "children," as Lily does for her child.  He kills both good 
deeds and the symbol of the resurrection, and it appears that he 
will be victorious.

He meets Harry and his own hate is reflected back upon him.  It is 
important that Harry doesn't actually do anything but really serve 
as a reflector at this point.

Lily's sacrifice reflects the sacrifice of Christ for his people, 
for his "kingdom of God," so to me when we speak of Lily's sacrifice 
being "all that's needed," what we're talking about in a greater 
sense IS Christ's sacrifice.  

And to reinforce the idea of the importance and resonance of "God's 
Kingdom," (and back on Godric's Hollow), the place on Harry's body 
that reflects the "killing curse" (as opposed to the grace of the 
eternal life provided by Christ) is the point at which he was 
baptized and himself brought into God's Kingdom.

(And, this is looking more like allegory, which I generally don't 
like, but the allegory is subtle and doesn't hit you over the head, 
so I can deal with it.)

As for the Horcruxes, I will defer to Mugglenet's first definition 
listed, which "and I quote "when broken down in many languages 
means "outside the cross."

As in not of the cross, or opposed to the cross, or as I believe 
follows logically, "against Christ."