Minerva and Tom: 6 theories

chrusotoxos chrusokomos at gmail.com
Thu Jun 15 06:39:24 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 153884

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "caspenzoe" <caspenzoe at ...> wrote:

> I have also wondered a lot about McGonagall lately, and, 
> unfortunately, I keep comming back to the McGonagal ESE theory I saw 
> summarized here some time ago. 

<snip>

> Are you familiar with the ESE MM theory, and what do you think of 
> it? Does it yeild any better answers to your question than the cigar 
> as cigar theory? 
> 
> Caspen
>

Chrusotoxos now

Hi Caspen!
Well, same goes for me...reading the posts and lurking in the dark
most of the time :D

I didn't know about MM ESE theory, I just read Anne's link and I'm
stunned. I do like her as a character, but I'll try to have an open
mind and actually discuss it.

Ok. Let's start.

No, I'm sorry. Ugh. I can't think of her as a DE. I'm sure that
everything can be explained simply and properly; in a Bellatrix vs.
Snape kind of speech:

1. Why didn't Dumbledore tell her about Horcruxes? 
Horcruxes are the key to destroy LV. Nobody knows about them, not even
DE, except for one RAB who has been dead for years and a fat teacher
who doesn't want to remember and has no proof. If LV knew that DD was
pursuing that line of thought, he would undoubtedly protect himself in
another way. I mean, the most interesting thing about Horcruxes is
that you can't feel it when they are destroyed, and this is Harry's
best chace of success. If I were Dumbledore, I wouldn't share this
with anyone. It's a war. Anyone, especially a member of the Order,
could be attacked and tortured and forced to talk; or bribed etc. Now,
if, and only if, Dumbledore trusts Snape more than MM, this could be
for 2 reasons: a) Snape is a fighter and knows is waiting for us 'out
there'; he can be trusted to know what to do when you're in danger, he
knows when a man is to be left behind and when you have to sacrifice
yourself to save everyone - whereas MM is a bookish person, brilliant
and clever but not so good at things and old already: she wasn't quick
enough to shield Aurors' attacks on her in Book 5, and she did
everything in her power to annoy Umbridge and be on her bad side...a
fool wearing her heart on her sleeve; isn't it her doing, in the end,
which allows Umbridge to gain more and more power in the school? PLus,
b) Snape may be bound in a way MM isn't: an Unforgivable, for example,
preventing him physically to talk about DD's secrets.

2.Why didn't she stop Fudge's Dementor?
I see nothing dangerous in here, really, you people are twisted :D.
She's nauseated because BC is disgusting, and she knew everyone
personally, after all: Crouch's victims and his father. Her wand is
steady because, though old and bookish, she's brave. She can't stop
the Dementor because, as we see in Book 5, she weak when she's taken
by surprise. And hey, could you have summoned a cheering thought after
that night?

3.Why did she spend a whole day outside no.4, Privet Drive?
I don't see mysteries here, neither. She heard rumors about what
happened and came to the one place she was sure Dumbledore would be, a
place the Order was probably watching even during the first war - we
never know. She narrowed her eyes because, in those times, you
couldn't be sure about anything...how many times had she seen a fake
DD? She wants to press her point because she's a rational woman, and
she won't believe anything until DD confirms it.
Also, it seems to me the people are always forgetting one thing: we're
reading a book. Characters do not live only according their own
wishes. Sometimes the author needs to tell US something.
For example, is this suspiciou that Harry hasn't tried to do magic,
whereas Hermione, Muggleborn, has? 
No, because Harry's are our eyes in this world and we don't know
anything about it. A clueless character is what WE need.
So: is this suspicious to say "the point she was most anxious to discuss"?
No; we don't know about LV yet; we don't know about the Potters; it is
crucial for the writer to make us understand that this his really
really important. And results are there: when DD says "yes, the good
and the bad" we immediately want to know what is the good and what is
the bad, and we trust his POV because MM does, and we trust MM because
she's funny and can turn into a cat. If, instead of MM, Umbridge or
even Emmeline Vance had been there we wouldn't be attracted by them,
and therefore wouldn't want to know what THEY want to know.

Ok. So it's a bit long, as usual, sorry!

Chrusotoxos 








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